Ever heard of- You can't see the forest for the trees? Started to turn two pens for archery tournament door prizes. I used the right wheel on my Rikon grinder and was pleased with the results. However, it got good results and had no more thoughts on it. But I looked at the other wheel and realized that I was using the coarse wheel! Switched to the fine wheel, sharpened the roughing gouge and wow! Did the chips fly!