I wanted to try finials but that did not work out and the ball knob is one I had in a box full of things like that. The knob idea came later. I like the gold knob better as it has more of a shape to it and the other ones are too long. It's just one of those things to keep trying at. The captured rings started out to be some thing else and then in the middle of the project I decided to use the captured ring tool as I have not used in in a long time so those are not real great either. They are three different sizes of rings and had a dilly of a time sanding those so didn't get a great job of that done. But the rest of the box turned out fine. It was all fun and I cheated,, I used a forstner bit for drilling the inside of the boxes and lids. I have a really pretty knob here that has a pretty rose on the top of it so things like that could work real nice too. There are so many things I want to try, but that will come along too.. Thanks for all the nice comments... Fay