Greg, there is so much it's hard to point out one but if my backs against the wall and have to then it would be the incredible amount of help that is offered here, a question can be posted and with-in just a few minutes, you'll have recived your answer from a number of members. While not all agree each one is given with the intent to help and each one is the right way for that person. I learn and add to my pen turning, merchandising,photography,casting, etc almost every time I log on. I'm in the same boat as George as 5 years ago I couldn't spell skew or Emperor:biggrin: and because of a member we no longer hear from who was our spell check I now can. Thanks Cav.