Triple Start Tap & Die Group Buy 2017

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eharri446

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Please read this post in its entirety.

First and foremost you must:

• Post to this thread and pm me if you would like to participate.

• This group buy cutoff if August 20th, 2017 in order to complete the above and fulfill the above and below.​

OVERVIEW

This buy is focused on obtaining the maximum quantity discount for our members for triple lead tap and dies as well as for the Bock and JOWO taps required to build kit less pens.​

IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE.

The goal is to have everything done and ordered by August 21st, 2017. I will do my best to use USPS Small Flat Rate Box (online USA postage price of $7.15 plus insurance based on the basic cost to replace the taps and dies that you order. If you do not want to pay for the additional insurance you will have to send me a PM opting out of the insurance). International postal rates depend on country and I will figure and request the difference at mailing to be sent by PayPal.

$50 of insurance is now included with Priority Mail. YOU are responsible for any additional insurance you want.

**New IAP guideline**

Insurance will be included unless you specifically decline!

For reference:

$100 of insurance costs $2.65, 200= $3.35, 300= $4.35, 400=$5.50, 500= $6.65. Please refer to the USPS website if you need insurance above $500. The amount of insurance will be calculated by me once I receive the spreadsheet. I recommend insurance. Please remember that I am responsible for shipping your merchandise, but I cannot be held responsible for its delivery!​

For Example:

If you order 1 plug tap and die for the M14, M13, M12, M11 and one plug tap for the Bock #5 and #6 as well as the JOWO #5 and #6 the total retail cost would be: $2011.40 so your insurance would be $27.90 making you total shipping cost $35.05.

The total cost of shipping will be determined once the individual spreadsheets are received. Once that is done the total cost for your order will be sent to you via PM. Once the total cost is determine you will have to make your payment to me via PayPal by the payment deadline. Otherwise your order will not be include in the final order to the vendor.​

WAITING LIST

There is no waiting list for this group buy.​

THE SPECIFICS

This group buy is open to any member of IAP.

IF YOU DO NOT MEET THE TIMELINES, WE WILL PLACE THE ORDER WITHOUT YOU. IF YOU SENT MONEY AFTER THE DEADLINE AND THE ORDER WAS PLACED THEN YOUR MONEY WILL BE REFUNDED TO YOU. THERE WILL BE NO "WARNING" EMAILS THAT YOU ARE LATE.​

REQUIREMENTS TO PARTICIPATE

• 1. Post to this thread and PM me to get in
• 2. Must have a valid shipping address
• 3. New: In your reply in this thread you must state that you either want to "Insure for retail value" or "No additional insurance on my shipment." Additionally, on the spreadsheet, you must indicate the same.
Please indicate your NAME and IAP USERNAME on all payments and correspondence.

I will give you my email address to return the spreadsheet too. Please note, download the spreadsheet at the bottom of this thread.

In the Excel document, there is a block at the top of the spreadsheets. It requires:

Your IAP screen name
Your “real” name
Your email address
Your mailing address
Whether or not you want insurance (Yes/No)
The sheet automatically calculates the PayPal fee – zero it out if using “Friends and Family”​

If these fields are not filled out accurately, the spreadsheet will be returned to you!​
DEADLINES

• Spreadsheet must be returned by August 10th, 2017 (Midnight – CST)
• PayPal (only payment option) by August 20th, 2017 (Midnight – CST)​

PAYMENTS - PAYPAL ONLY

I will be placing the order by Monday, Aug 21st, 2017. If you have not made the PayPal payment by the deadline scheduled above you will be removed from the buy. I will confirm your total via PM as well as my PayPal information once I receive your order back.

Several members and organizers have asked PayPal regarding the use of "Friends and Family" payment option. And it is OK in their eyes and has been each time they were contacted. The "Friends and Family" payment method has no fees for the recipient, thus saving you money. If you choose NOT to use the send money to Friends and Family option, the spreadsheet has already added 4% PayPal goods and services fee. If you use F&F option - follow the guide on the spreadsheet and zero out the PayPal fee.

I will issue PayPal refunds for any over payments. I will try to get as close to even as possible – anything less than $1.00 will not be refunded.​

SHIPPING



Availability

Shipping will be done once all of the merchandise for the order is received. According to the vendor the merchandise will be available based on the : taps in 3-5 weeks and the dies in 4 – 6 weeks depending on quantity ordered​

USA

Will be defaulted to published USPS small Flat Rate Box for online postage price of $7.15. It will include tracking and delivery confirmation.​

International

Will be determined once you submit your spreadsheet, and the cost will be updated on your spreadsheet. Once that is updated you will be notified via PM of the final cost of your order. It will include tracking and delivery confirmation.​

SHIPPING INSURANCE

I do require that you pay for insurance, unless you specifically chose to opt out of the additional insurance. I cannot and will not be responsible for what happens to your order after it leaves my control. You will receive confirmation of shipping, but once it has left my hands I am not responsible for it.

If you desire no additional insurance then you must notify me via PM and indicate that you do not want additional insurance on the spreadsheet.

I highly recommend that you do not opt out of the additional insurance because of the cost to replace your order at the retail cost per item.​

ITEMS AVAILABLE

The items available for ordering will be listed on the spreadsheet and all you have to do is enter the quantity for each tap and/or die that you wish to purchase.

Only items listed on the spreadsheet will be included in the buy, no other items will be added.​

BACK ORDERED ITEMS

There will be NO back orders.​

CLOSEOUT ITEMS

There will be NO CLOSEOUT ORDERS.​

MORE INFORMATION

The attached spreadsheet for the Triple Start Threads Group Buy will calculate your total cost for order based on the results of the thread under the Group Buy Research forum.

I have also rounded up the PayPal fee to 4.0% (only applicable if you’re NOT using the Friends and Family option in PayPal). Your PayPal fee may be less than what you pay, and this difference will be refunded. Once all payments are received and account settled to my satisfaction, I will issue PayPal refunds for any over payments. I’ll try to get as close to even as possible – anything less than $1.00 will not be refunded.

All refunds or settlements will be in the form of a check included in your order.

Please complete your order within the spreadsheet. Before you return the spreadsheet to me by email – change the excel file name as follows:

RealFirstName_RealLastName_TSTD_2017_Group_Final.xls

I hope these terms are acceptable to everyone, and please feel free to PM me with any questions or concerns.

NOTE: If anyone does not have access to Microsoft Excel, please contact me and I will send you and alternate means of entering your order.​
 

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dthayer

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Thank you for doing this! I have been wanting to get into kitless for a while now and these seem like great prices. Would you be able and willing to tell the ignorant among us (me!) what we need at a minimum from this offering to get started?
 

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Hank Lee aka leehljp - Posting to this thread. I am about to send the spreadsheet with the email after I post this and PM you directly.

size 11 tap and die (non bottoming).

PLEASE INSURE for FULL retail value.

SPREADSHEET SENT via email

"The sheet automatically calculates the PayPal fee – zero it out if using “Friends and Family”"
-> I don't order items here often; not sure what this means, what its purpose is or how to use it. I have just purchased things straight through PayPal. So how does this affect me?

(NOTE on SHIPPING: ON occasion, my address shows up as not valid - with a few companies. It IS valid. I live in a small town and everything USPS goes through the post office BOX. They do not deliver to the street. AND They do not put mail in my box unless it has a box NUMBER on it. Street address by itself will not work; it will get sent back to the sender.)
 
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Racer3770

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Thanks for putting this together!
I have filled out the spreadsheet for a 12 x 0.8 plug tap and die. Please insure for full retail value.

Thanks again!
James Smith
 

eharri446

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edstreet

we have pricing for M14, M13, M12, M11 triple lead plug, bottoming taps and dies.

Also we have pricing for Bock #5 and 6, and JOWO #5 and 6 plug and bottoming dies.

You can see the price breakdowns for each one in the thread under Group Buy Research.
 

eharri446

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Just so that everyone is aware of where these taps and dies are coming from:

The company is call e-Taps.com and is out of Palm Beach, Florida. The dies are made either in Europe or in the United States.
 

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Elwin:

I'd like 1 x Bock #6 plug tap.

The price is less than $50, no additional insurance beyond the automatic $50 coverage with a SFRB.

I'll pay Friends & Family.

Thanks for all your effort organizing this group buy.

Duncan Suss
(IAP username: duncsuss)
 

TomG737

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PM Sent.

Please insure for full retail value.

Spreadsheet updated and ready to go,

Thank you sincerely for putting this together!!

Tom Gauntt
 

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I'll be sending my spreadsheet shortly.

Please insure for for retail value.

Please let know if you need anything else. Thank you.
 

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I am ordering the following:
11mm Plug Tap
13mm Plug Tap
11mm Die
13mm Die
#5 Bock Plug Tap
#6 Bock Plug Tap
#5 JOWO Plug Tap
#6 JOWO Plug Tap
"Insure for retail value"
PM Sent, waiting for your email to send you the spreadsheet.

Thanks for putting this order together.

Danny Clarke
 
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leehljp

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I am ordering the following:
11mm Plug Tap
13mm Plug Tap
11mm Die
13mm Die
#5 Bock Plug Tap
#6 Bock Plug Tap
#5 JOWO Plug Tap
#6 JOWO Plug Tap
"Insure for retail value"
PM Sent, waiting for your email to send you the spreadsheet.

Thanks for putting this order together.

Danny Clarke
Danny, did you get a PM from him? The PM has his email address in it. IF you did get a PM, the email address should be there.

I missed that the first time.
 

Spiderman

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I'm in for:
M12 x .08 Plug Tap
M12 x .08 Die
Bock #5 Plug Tap
Bock #6 Plug Tap

Yes to insurance on the retail value

I will send in the spread sheet and PM shortly.

Thanks for doing this!!

Mike
 

Burb

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Quick question on the Dies, as I don't recall reading it. Are they 1" or 1.5"? I want to ensure they will fit in the NeilsNiche Die Holder properly. Thanks.
 

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Quick question on the Dies, as I don't recall reading it. Are they 1" or 1.5"? I want to ensure they will fit in the NeilsNiche Die Holder properly. Thanks.
The m14 are 1.5" not sure about the m13, as I don't have one yet, but the m12 and lower are 1 .
 

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Hi Elwin,

I sent you the completed worksheet today.

My order is:

12mm x 0.8 Triple Start Plug Tap
12mm x 0.8 Triple Start Bottom Tap
12mm x 0.8 Triple Start Die

#5 Bock 6.4mm x 0.6 Plug Tap
#6 Bock 7.9mm x 0.6 Plug Tap
#6 JOWO 7.4mm x 0.6 Plug Tap

Total Value incl ins, PP fee, & ship to Canada = $275.22 (est.)

Insure for retail value $300 = $4.35 to Canada (included above)

If you require any further info please let me know.

Thank you very much for putting this together, Elwin.
 

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Insure for retail value please.
Also, will add M11/M13 plug, bottom taps and dies to my previous requests in the research posts. So, ordering one of everything... figure it's been too long between GB's so just decided to go for it!
Jeff
 

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I am Steve Guzy (IAP: SteveG)
This is my confirmation for participation in the Tap/Die 2017 GB.
SS & PM are sent.
I will pay via F & F mode.
Insurance: No additional insurance on my shipment.

Aloha!
 

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Spreadsheet compete. PM sent. Awaiting an email address to forward spreadsheet. This is great - thank you so much.
 

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Spreadsheet compete. PM sent. Awaiting an email address to forward spreadsheet. This is great - thank you so much.


He sent a PM on the 28th with the email address when he announced the official group buy. Check your inbox to see if you got it already. I missed it the first time I read it.

Danny


Sent from my iPhone using Penturners.org mobile app
 

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Just an update as to where we are at, we had 48 people indicate that they would like to participate when we did the initial research. We have had 2 people drop out and 3 people join in.

At this point, we have had 22 people respond with their spreadsheets and still have 25 who have not responded.
 
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Just an update as to where we are at, we had 48 people indicate that they would like to participate when we did the initial research. We have had 2 people drop out and 3 people join in.

At this point, we have had 22 people respond with their spreadsheets and still have 25 who have not responded.
Elwin,

This is quite common, unfortunately. Some people see this and decide they want in and comment on it. But 30% to 40% of the respondents only check in once a week or if the thread is beyond the first page, they don't see it. There will be people wanting to sign up in 6 weeks, never looking at the dates.

I have watched this inclination over several years. It is not just with you. There will be a 1 or 2 with legitimate reasons for missing for a week or two or three. Sometimes, the only answer is emailing these who did not respond to the PM.

This hurts those who are serious on purchasing group buys at a discount.
 
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