I made a road trip north to Chuck's Cave. RKimery also joined us today. I learned a valuable lesson. Just because it looks good on paper, doesn't mean it will work in real life!! I have an idea for a pen, but after a few failures it's time to step back and start over. But a bad day turning with friends is always better than a day at work!! All in all I had lots of fun till the drive home. It only took 4 1/2 hours to go 110 miles. I managed to sit in one spot on the interstate for 2 1/2 hours without moving.