JimB I was originally from Upstate NY, went camping at Piseco Lake, Raquette Lake and a lot of other places up there. I met Corain King yesturday after work and he is a real good guy.
Thanks for all the pointers and links, I have checked out some of the library, and got some good ideas.
Oh and me posting my pens... I don't want to be pointed at and laughed at