Dust collector alternative?

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Woodchipper

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I have a Grizzly G8027 dust collector. Works great with a rating on 2.5 microns. I'm getting some fine dust that escapes outside the filter bag. Not a big deal but like to keep the shop clean. Any way to upgrade this to collect the fine dust? Thanks.
 
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Powertec makes a 1 micron bag that fits the Grizzly. I read about changing to this one, but haven't done it myself. I read from others that it does not seem to restrict air flow much by increasing the filter rating.

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‎POWERTEC 15 in. x 24 in. Dust Collector Bag 1 Micron Filter for Jet, Grizzly, Harbor Freight, ShopFox, Delta and POWERTEC 70335 - The Home Depot

Attain a contemporary and inexpensive tool to complete all your heavy force needed jobs at the workplace with POWERTEC Dust Collector Bag Filter for Harbor Freight ShopFox Delta WEN.
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Thanks for the link; HD is about four miles away. I'll measure the bag first and go from there. Air flow isn't a biggy as the hose isn't never more than 10-12 feet from the DC.
 
This is a real filter, not a bag. Those bag filters do not capture the smaller particulates that is really dangerous to be breathing in.

Yes, it is more expensive than the bags, but it is a lot less expensive than new lungs.

wynnenv.com

35B222NANO Cartridge Kit - Wynn Environmental

Removable top end cap included with its own gasket and hardware. MERV 15, Nanofiber filter media, 222 sq ft (open pleat design), 17.5” diameter x 23” tall,
wynnenv.com
 
d_bondi said:
This is a real filter, not a bag. Those bag filters do not capture the smaller particulates that is really dangerous to be breathing in.

Yes, it is more expensive than the bags, but it is a lot less expensive than new lungs.

wynnenv.com

35B222NANO Cartridge Kit - Wynn Environmental

Removable top end cap included with its own gasket and hardware. MERV 15, Nanofiber filter media, 222 sq ft (open pleat design), 17.5” diameter x 23” tall,
wynnenv.com
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Price is out of the budget. Already have lung problems that are hereditary.
 
Mortalis said:
Those wont help keep the shop clean though. :rolleyes:
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You are correct. No they will not.

The problem with the dust collectors with the bag type filters is that they make you think that it is safe to work in the environment without a mask or respirator. That is dangerous, because it is the little stuff that gets through those bag type filters that gets deep in your lungs and causes serious health issues.
 
I agree with David - bag dust collectors give you a false sense of security - you think you are doing good, but in reality the worst dust you can have in your shop is sucked into the collector and simply propelled under pressure through the bag material into your shop air by the dust collector blower. It's bad on your lungs and it provides you with lots of dust on everything in the shop! No one died from accumulations of chips or shavings in their lungs - which the dust collector effectively blocks - it's the small particulates that matter. I also worry about how clean my shop is - I clean it regularly, but I am more concerned about how clean my lungs stay. Good filters are way cheaper than good doctors.
 
I have a respirator but it throws my glasses out of focus so then I deal with severe headaches. Can't win for losing.
I have a box fan and filter. That doesn't do anything about the fine dust that collects on the DC.
 
I also wound-up buying one of those large canister things that that sit on top of my dust collector. And, like all say, it was almost as much as the dust collector. I tried the smaller micron bags and I guess it helped but not as much as the canister thing. Mine has a large handle on top that allows you to keep the dust from "sticking" to the filter media. I also run a Jet airfilter. I don't know of anything that is any less expensive. Great question.
 
d_bondi said:
You are correct. No they will not.

The problem with the dust collectors with the bag type filters is that they make you think that it is safe to work in the environment without a mask or respirator. That is dangerous, because it is the little stuff that gets through those bag type filters that gets deep in your lungs and causes serious health issues.
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And I was only referring to the OP request of something to keep the shop clean. that is why I included the ":rolleyes:".
Woodchipper said: "Not a big deal but like to keep the shop clean. Any way to upgrade this to collect the fine dust? Thanks."
 
I highly recommend a cyclone separator addon to your dust collector. Based on my experience with a relatively inexpensive Oneida Dust Deputy model that I added on to my shop-vac. I think you will be amazed. They say it removes 99% of the dust and debris from the air stream and I believe it. I have had a drywall dust collection bag inside my shop-vac for almost 5 years to capture any fines that get past my cyclone, and so far I haven't had any significant buildup of dust in the bag so it truly does remove nearly all of the dust from the air stream.

I know Grizzly makes a cyclone (G0863) if you want to stay brand loyal, otherwise I would recommend an Oneida Super Dust Deputy as a lower cost, made in the USA solution.

Dave
 
I concur with Dave (@egnald).

I am using the blower from the Harbor Freight Dust Collector, but that is all. I have the Oneida Super Dust Deputy, and the Wynn Environmental Merv13 Filter Canister I linked to above. I have also upgraded the impeller on the fan to the full size Rikon impeller. All really good mods.
 
Woodchipper said:
I have a DD but CSR at Grizzly said it would cut down on suction. DD is sitting in the basement gathering dust.
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Everything between the inlet of the impeller on the blower and the point where you are drawing in the debris from your work increases the resistance to airflow and therefore reduces the airflow and suction. The issue is not reducing it so much that the system becomes ineffective.

I can tell you that my system, the HF 2HP Blower, Oneida Super Dust Deputy, Wynn Env Merrv13 Canister Filter is quite effective. Upgrading to the full size Rikon impeller made it even better. The Super Dust Deputy is mounted on top of a 30 gallon plastic drum. 98%+ of the material sucked in is pulled out and dropped into that drum by the Super Dust Deputy. I can't imagine all that stuff getting into my Merv13 Canister filter.

Here is a picture of my Franken Dust Collector...

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Here is a picture of the debris that the Super Dust Deputy saves from getting into my Merv13 Canister.

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The debris is 20" deep in there.
 
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