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I have repeatedly read Bill's message and do not see any mention of moving to PA.
What I see is "an enterprising company who is relocating the business to the East Coast".
Is there another post somewhere that specifically mentions PA?
 
Monty said:
I have repeatedly read Bill's message and do not see any mention of moving to PA.
What I see is "an enterprising company who is relocating the business to the East Coast".
Is there another post somewhere that specifically mentions PA?
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I think the OP of this thread, who lives in PA, is hopefull. I think that caught on but is not necessarily where it'll be.

AK
 
Canada heat

lorbay said:
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:biggrin::biggrin: Lin: I hear the new owners will start shipping to Canada as soon as the new dogsleds arrive that the Postal Service ordered. Jim S
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With the heat we've been having I really wish all the stereotypes about all of Canada being cold were true! With it feeling like 43°C (110°F) the other day it just not the case.

AK
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Well ship some of that heat out here. :biggrin::biggrin: and I sure hope the new owners do ship to Canada.

Lin.
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:hammer::hammer: AK: My point was not that Canada is cold, but that mail delivery is S-----L-----O-----W. Not to worry, I also found out the postal service ordered the optional wheel kits for the dog sleds to "speed up" delivery in the warmer months. They are also going to wrap their packages in duct tape to keep the pieces from falling out before delivery. Jim S
 
I too don't understand how the location relates to lower quality. Does the quality decline as kits and orders are quickly packed and shipped? Does a location outside Arizona, be it east coast or west, make the quality of the mdse lesser than it was in Arizona? I think I now share the same location as you: Confusion? :biggrin: Or, maybe I just continually live in a State of Confuision! :biggrin::biggrin:

Do a good turn daily!
Don

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As for the quality remarks what I was wanting to say is there are so many low quality not that good items/kits/parts out there and since the new shop being in Pennsylvania there is the two aspects to look at, the big rush to get stuff out the door due to change in location (in which case quality can/may suffer greatly) and there's the rush that the whole area is in to push things out the door as fast as possible and not so much care with quality.

Ed
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its_virgil said:
I too don't understand how the location relates to lower quality. Does the quality decline as kits and orders are quickly packed and shipped? Does a location outside Arizona, be it east coast or west, make the quality of the mdse lesser than it was in Arizona? I think I now share the same location as you: Confusion? :biggrin: Or, maybe I just continually live in a State of Confuision! :biggrin::biggrin:

Do a good turn daily!
Don

edstreet said:
As for the quality remarks what I was wanting to say is there are so many low quality not that good items/kits/parts out there and since the new shop being in Pennsylvania there is the two aspects to look at, the big rush to get stuff out the door due to change in location (in which case quality can/may suffer greatly) and there's the rush that the whole area is in to push things out the door as fast as possible and not so much care with quality.

Ed
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I think i have to agree with Don on this one also! First things first though, before everyone jumps to conclusions about the new owners, which is how BIG BAD RUMORS ARE STARTED, why dont we all keep a positive attitude about this until we know the facts. Besides, for all you old fo-gies that dont like change, Sometimes change can be for the better! Yes i said that! wow, is that a stereotype of how old people are? Maybe not always be true, but the same goes for this situation.
 
GaryMGg said:
LIL,

One of the first suppliers I bought from was AS.
Bill's service was great. He stood behind his products and kept his word.
Bill strikes some folks as a curmudgeon (sp?) but I like him; always have.

Best to you and yours Bill. Good luck in your future endeavors, whatever they may be.
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One of the best posts in the whole thread, and I fully agree.
 
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I have dealt with Bill several times and have had enjoyable conversations with him on the phone. I like him, I respect him, and I will miss dealing with him. As a fellow Marine, I wish him the best in whatever his next detail is.
 
As a Canadian ,I have ordered merchandise from Bill for the past 10 years. In the beginning he was able to ship to me direct but as his business grew he had to look at other options for Canadian shipments. Bills service and quality of his eye candy boxelder burl blanks was the best and I re route my shipments through American friends so I could enjoy the best. In the beginning of my business and as a newbie I had many questions on techniques (IAP was not there yet) and Bill patiently answered my questions on the telephone. Last year I had another question on supply and I reached out to Bill by telephone and got my answer. I wish Bill and his wife all the best in the next chapter of their life and thank Bill for supporting me when I needed it. I will continue to support the new owner.
Darrell Eisner
 
Andrew_K99 said:
I think the OP of this thread, who lives in PA, is hopefull. I think that caught on but is not necessarily where it'll be.

AK
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At this point, I honestly don't recall where, or even if, I saw mention of Pa, as I can't find anywhere.
 
Chatham PenWorks said:
Andrew_K99 said:
I think the OP of this thread, who lives in PA, is hopefull. I think that caught on but is not necessarily where it'll be.

AK
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At this point, I honestly don't recall where, or even if, I saw mention of Pa, as I can't find anywhere.
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Yet another example of the internet resembling the telephone 'whispering' drama game. (whisper into one person's ear, continue down the line, and see what the last person heard)

"Hope it's close enought to Philly to drool over stuff" has morphed into "It will be moving to PA" :biggrin:

Edit: Bah, I can't believe I didn't read the title to this thread - they ARE from PA - senior moment!!
 
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David M said:
could be something to do with the title of the tread .......
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Ahhh there you go.....I'm just going to sit back now and await the announcement and re-grand opening of A.S. and hope to establish a good relationship with who ever it may be.

I will miss Bill spoke with him many times. He didn't beat around the bush, very straight forward, told how it was and didn't rush you. That was my impression anyway.

Good Luck and enjoy yourself Bill
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maxwell_smart007 said:
Chatham PenWorks said:
Andrew_K99 said:
I think the OP of this thread, who lives in PA, is hopefull. I think that caught on but is not necessarily where it'll be.

AK
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At this point, I honestly don't recall where, or even if, I saw mention of Pa, as I can't find anywhere.
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Yet another example of the internet resembling the telephone 'whispering' drama game. (whisper into one person's ear, continue down the line, and see what the last person heard)

"Hope it's close enought to Philly to drool over stuff" has morphed into "It will be moving to PA" :biggrin:
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Naw, if "truth" be known, Bill is relocating AS to the Great White North to make up for "depriving" us Canucks of not shipping to Canada.:biggrin:
 
AK: My point was not that Canada is cold, but that mail delivery is S-----L-----O-----W.
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Canadian mail delivery is actually pretty good. But if you're talking cross border stuff that's a different story. That's the customs guys and gals that slow that down. I think they spend a lot of time making sure you guys aren't shipping us guns :biggrin:
 
This is exactly what i was thinking of posting after seeing the news, here. Bill is passionate about what he does, and is not afraid to speak his mind, I respect that! I have purchased from him since my second order in 2004...right after I learned how much I spent on my first order at WOODCRAFT (OUCH)!!!. Bill has never let me down but has let me know when i was asking too much of him.
Good luck Bill!!!


GaryMGg said:
LIL,

One of the first suppliers I bought from was AS.
Bill's service was great. He stood behind his products and kept his word.
Bill strikes some folks as a curmudgeon (sp?) but I like him; always have.

Best to you and yours Bill. Good luck in your future endeavors, whatever they may be.
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MesquiteMan said:
No, they have not been bought by PSI.
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Thank heaven.

I will miss BB and Co. I always thought the Olympia was and is the class of the slimline twist pens. It's the only one I'm more than happy to make. I wish them well in this different direction they are taking.

(Anyone know what direction that is? One inquiring mind wants to know. But in any case, Godspeed!)
 
Like many others, I have bought from Bill since I first started about 4 years ago. I've have a lot of respect for the fine way Bill ran his business. He was prompt, courteous and carried quality products. I will miss him and wish him the best.. Larry
 
I'll bet once the inventory is moved and organized by the new owner that we will see the same prompt service and quality products...and heck, maye even some new offerings.
Do a good turn daily!
Don
 
As others have also said AS was one of the first vendors I ordered from when I started doing pens. The website wasn't the greatest but it served the purpose and my orders were always processed promptly. Orders from the new location will obviously take longer to get to Colorado but I don't have a problem with that. I look at how soon a vendor gets the order out the door, not how long it takes to reach me. I think if a vendor ships an order same or next day they are providing excellent service. A couple days is even fine.

If I don't have what I need when I need it, I didn't order it soon enough.

Looking forward to seeing what the new owners have in store for us.
 
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Hi all,

I also want to with Bill all the best. They always treated me well and I always got more than I paid for.
 
The new owner, BARRY GROSS, has completed the purchase of the business and has given me permission to spill the beans. So, yes, AS is moving to PA. Congratulations, Barry. You have big shoes to fill but I am sure you will do well and make Bill proud!
 
Yay! I am excited about the purchase! Having done business with both A.S. and Barry, this should be a good thing. I have enjoyed speaking with Barry and his wife at the wood shows.
Looking forward to doing business with the new A.S.
 
I've known Barry for several years now and I too purchase PSI mdse from him. We've spent time together at a few symposiums and I was fortunate to visit him at his home/shop last summer. Thanks Barry for your friendship. Now, I will be getting from him the stuff I purchase from Arizona Silhouette. I have no doubt Barry will take Arizone Silhouette to a new level of service and products. Hurry and get that cargo van to PA because I need some barons!
Do a Good turn daily!
Don
 
I have known Barry Gross for several years and have purchased a number of products from him. He has always shipped my orders promptly and have not had any problems. I have also contacted him with questions on product usage and technical problems and he has been very helpful and courteous. BEST OF LUCK BARRY

Wayne
 
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