Chatham PenWorks
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Just went to their weekly specials page, and noticed the message. I hope it's close enough to Philly to go drool on Saturdays. Bill was always good to deal with. I wish the new owners the best of luck.
Arizona silhouette moving to Pa.
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hanau
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wonder if pen state bought them?
Just went to that page and could not find any info?
Curly
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Maybe they will ship to Canada now.
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Chatham PenWorks
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OLDMAN5050 said:
On the home page, just below the credit cards.
mpmopc
Member
Here is the link:Sale of Business
Phil
Phil
Chatham PenWorks
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hanau said:
The thought occurred to me, and was quickly removed from my brain. That would not be a good thing..
Holz Mechaniker
Member
WOW, I bought from Bill just this monday, Guess I will have to treasure what I got a little bit more than I expected
MesquiteMan
Retired Head Moderator
No, they have not been bought by PSI. I know who the new owner is but can not spill the beans until they are ready! The new owner will do a good job.
Chatham PenWorks
Member
MesquiteMan said:
But you can tell if it's close to Philly, right? C'mon, you can tell us...
bruce119
Member
WOW .... I will have to keep an eye on this. I see there are changes to the page already. Hate to see Bill go I talked with him quite a few times. Hope to have a good relationship with the new owners.
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Steve Busey
Member
Does this mean they'll be Pennsylvania Silhouette?
I'll always be endeared to Bill Baumbeck. A number of years ago, AAW held a raffle fundraiser for Phil Brennion, and Bill donated a Stronghold chuck, which I won (just missed getting picked for the Powermatic lathe!!). Looking forward to "AS: Next Generation" - though I just placed an order yesterday, so I'll be waiting for the moving dust to settle before I have any future orders.
Thanks Bill!
I'll always be endeared to Bill Baumbeck. A number of years ago, AAW held a raffle fundraiser for Phil Brennion, and Bill donated a Stronghold chuck, which I won (just missed getting picked for the Powermatic lathe!!). Looking forward to "AS: Next Generation" - though I just placed an order yesterday, so I'll be waiting for the moving dust to settle before I have any future orders.
Thanks Bill!
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Rifleman1776
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New owners? IMHO, that is good. I'll start doing business with the company again.
MobilMan
Member
I want to wish Bill all the luck in whatever he is going to do later. Hope he's retiring & taking some time to himself. Good luck, feller.
tjseagrove
Member
Just a guess.... B.G. ??
KenV
Member
Bill has been having some health issues the past few years. He qualifies as an old codger and has earned his place in woodturning. He has been a staunch supporter of the Arizona Woodturners Association for years. Will miss seeing him at the vendors gallery at the Desert Woodturners Roundup.
Wish him the best. He has treated me very well over the last decade plus.
Wish him the best. He has treated me very well over the last decade plus.
lorbay
Member
seamus7227
Member
I too am looking forward to this! Great News coming and I hope everyone welcomes the new owners openly!
biednick
Member
I really hope that the new owners do as well as Bill did. The service he provided was top notch. AS and Exotics have been my go to sourses for most blanks.
OKLAHOMAN
Member
Darn, I would have bought him out in a heart beat, if I'd known .
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:wink:plantman
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:biggrin::biggrin: Lin: I hear the new owners will start shipping to Canada as soon as the new dogsleds arrive that the Postal Service ordered. Jim S
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Andrew_K99
Member
With the heat we've been having I really wish all the stereotypes about all of Canada being cold were true! With it feeling like 43°C (110°F) the other day it just not the case.
AK
Russianwolf
Member
Saw something the other day that said 97% of the Greenland ice sheet was experiencing surface melting (measured in mm) this past week. Normally its in the 40% range with most of the melt being around the edges. This heatwave is WIDE spread. The scientist tracking it checked the satellites because they thought the data was an error.
Timbo
Member
Hmmm....I'm wondering if the owners of MLCS got tired of hawking PSI's stuff and decided to do their own thing. Other than that, there are two "big name" pen turners in my area who might be involved. Guessing when it doesn't hurt anyone is fun!
redfishsc
Member
Indeed.
edstreet
Member
That would imply the move to be a downgrade. Just for the location I have serious questions and doubts as to my future orders with them.
razor524
Member
Just bought some things from them, great service. I wish them well!
its_virgil
Member
Ouch! Not even going to give the new owner a chance. It might just be your loss. But, the choice to order or not order from the new owner is yours to make.
I wish them well. I have ordered from Arizona Silhouette since I first started and have never had a problem with Bill or his service. I see no reason that would change with the new owner. As for me, I will continue to order from Arizona Silhouette no matter in what state the new home of the business is located.
Do a good turn daily!
Don
I wish them well. I have ordered from Arizona Silhouette since I first started and have never had a problem with Bill or his service. I see no reason that would change with the new owner. As for me, I will continue to order from Arizona Silhouette no matter in what state the new home of the business is located.
Do a good turn daily!
Don
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ed4copies
Local Chapter Manager
As a practical matter, most of the compliments we as vendors receive are related to how FAST you got your products.
No matter WHAT the new owner does, those of you in Texas and California are GOING TO WAIT LONGER from Pennsylvania, than you did from Arizona. The simple geography dictates at least TWO DAYS longer.
NOT the new owner's fault----but I suspect it WILL cost AS customers.
edstreet
Member
First everything being hush hush throws major red flags.
I would have to be greatly impressed with the quality that is offered. Something well above and beyond the low to junk quality that is currently flooding the market.
lorbay
Member
Most would say global warming my A-- as some part of the world are colder than normal as it is here where I live. But that's just it, where it supposed to be cold it's warmer and where it's supposed to be warmer it's colder. Not that I am complaining where I live now, as I came from 7 darn months of winter.
Lin.
lorbay
Member
Well ship some of that heat out here. :biggrin::biggrin: and I sure hope the new owners do ship to Canada.
Lin.
its_virgil
Member
I don't see the hush hush as a negative or a major red flag. I suppose when the details of the sale are totally worked out between the new and current owner and ownership is transferred and the new owner is ready to make his announcement then we will all know who the new owner is.
Arizona Silhouette is a reseller of Berea kits and I also assume the new owner will continue that with that line of kits and maybe even offer new ones.
Do a good turn daily!
Don
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First everything being hush hush throws major red flags.
I would have to be greatly impressed with the quality that is offered. Something well above and beyond the low to junk quality that is currently flooding the market.[/quote]
Arizona Silhouette is a reseller of Berea kits and I also assume the new owner will continue that with that line of kits and maybe even offer new ones.
Do a good turn daily!
Don
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First everything being hush hush throws major red flags.
I would have to be greatly impressed with the quality that is offered. Something well above and beyond the low to junk quality that is currently flooding the market.[/quote]
ed4copies
Local Chapter Manager
I completely agree with Don's assessment. When you are purchasing a company, there is no reason to "advertise" that fact. As the purchaser, you hope to close the deal without competing bids.
Now, from Bill's point of view--he must be happy with the arrangements or he would not have finalized (I assume from what has been said, this IS finalized).
Buying a business allows access to the product line. In a year we will know if the new buyer can run a business as well as Bill did for nearly two decades. I have had my disagreements with Bill. But he remained a "force" in the pen kit community, even as the internet grew from an acorn to it's present size. Bill brought talents to his business, time will tell what talents the new ownership may have.
Personally, I wish Bill a healthy and happy "retirement"!! I know this is at least his SECOND career--I admire his tenacity and work ethic!!
Enjoy your future, Bill!!
Now, from Bill's point of view--he must be happy with the arrangements or he would not have finalized (I assume from what has been said, this IS finalized).
Buying a business allows access to the product line. In a year we will know if the new buyer can run a business as well as Bill did for nearly two decades. I have had my disagreements with Bill. But he remained a "force" in the pen kit community, even as the internet grew from an acorn to it's present size. Bill brought talents to his business, time will tell what talents the new ownership may have.
Personally, I wish Bill a healthy and happy "retirement"!! I know this is at least his SECOND career--I admire his tenacity and work ethic!!
Enjoy your future, Bill!!
its_virgil
Member
I have ordered from most every purveyor of pen kits and turning supplies. As we all know that means deliveries from states in all corners of the USA and across the heartland and up and down both coasts. I really have not noticed much difference is delivery time. All of my orders have been processed sent in a timely manner and arrived as I would expect. Maybe I have been lucky but hey, I'll take it. Thanks to all of our vendors and purveyors. I also know not everyone has always been happy with the service they have received. But, hey, life goes on.
Do a good turn daily1
Don
Do a good turn daily1
Don
dtswebb
Member
I've ordered from Bill and the crew since I started turning. Bill always made me feel like I was his only customer and for that I'm grateful. I expect that relationship to continue with the new owners.
I wish Bill and the crew my best and my thanks for their service and support.
Matthew
I wish Bill and the crew my best and my thanks for their service and support.
Matthew
MesquiteMan
Retired Head Moderator
I would imagine the reason the new owner has not announced anything is because they want time to get everything moved and settle in before being bombarded with e-mails and telephone calls asking if things are going to change or stay the same. I can assure you, as can Ed and any other online vendor, that answering e-mails and telephone calls can easily eat up half of your day (or more) in normal circumstances. Add in questions about the future, and the new owner will not have enough hours in the day to set up shop!
edstreet
Member
Ok, I feel that I owe everyone more detail as to my post earlier.
As for the quality remarks what I was wanting to say is there are so many low quality not that good items/kits/parts out there and since the new shop being in Pennsylvania there is the two aspects to look at, the big rush to get stuff out the door due to change in location (in which case quality can/may suffer greatly) and there's the rush that the whole area is in to push things out the door as fast as possible and not so much care with quality.
The other aspect is since it's all hush hush throwing a red flag because we dont know about these things and no one is saying either. Only time will tell.
As for the time factor issue, I would rather wait for higher quality items than get junk shipped out the door today. But then I always say you cant rush perfection. Many vendors may/do have the opposite approach, but honestly I am willing to pay up front and wait for quality.
I have some gunleather, holster and belt for a rogers and spencer revoler I have, prepaid and been waiting for it about 6 months now. I am also pre-paid and waiting for a brick sculpture for a yard project I am working on for about 2 months now, will prob be another 2 before I get it. Like I said, you cant rush perfection.
Ed
As for the quality remarks what I was wanting to say is there are so many low quality not that good items/kits/parts out there and since the new shop being in Pennsylvania there is the two aspects to look at, the big rush to get stuff out the door due to change in location (in which case quality can/may suffer greatly) and there's the rush that the whole area is in to push things out the door as fast as possible and not so much care with quality.
The other aspect is since it's all hush hush throwing a red flag because we dont know about these things and no one is saying either. Only time will tell.
As for the time factor issue, I would rather wait for higher quality items than get junk shipped out the door today. But then I always say you cant rush perfection. Many vendors may/do have the opposite approach, but honestly I am willing to pay up front and wait for quality.
I have some gunleather, holster and belt for a rogers and spencer revoler I have, prepaid and been waiting for it about 6 months now. I am also pre-paid and waiting for a brick sculpture for a yard project I am working on for about 2 months now, will prob be another 2 before I get it. Like I said, you cant rush perfection.
Ed
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Russianwolf
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Not getting the quality aspect. The are and likely will be a reseller for Berea just the same as others. Location of their shop would have no bearing on the quality. Its not as if they are moving a manufacturing operation.
As far as being hush about who the new owner. I see no great conspiracy. Bill made his announcement and two weeks after he closes shop you'll know who the new owner is if not before. He may not be able to announce yet for legal reasons or may be too busy arranging the move.
As far as being hush about who the new owner. I see no great conspiracy. Bill made his announcement and two weeks after he closes shop you'll know who the new owner is if not before. He may not be able to announce yet for legal reasons or may be too busy arranging the move.