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After the $50 rebate from Delta my total comes to 903.
Am I being realistic or are some of the items on my list a joke?

Thanks!




Delta lathe!!! 600 w/ 50 mail in rebate
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00309ZZRQ/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

center drills 7
http://www.amazon.com/HSCD-10-Double-Center-Spiral-Flutes/dp/B002GV2RAC/ref=pd_sbs_indust_6

drill bits 40 - or should I get individual bits of sizes that I'll use most often, like the taps?
That's what I'm thinking. Any suggestions?
http://www.harborfreight.com/115-piece-high-speed-drill-bit-set-with-index-528.html

drill chuck 32
http://www.amazon.com/PSI-Woodworking-Products-TM32-Diameter/dp/B004CVJC20/ref=pd_cart_recs1

Live center - 16
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KIEPSA/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

taps and dies from roginsf on ebay - 68
http://stores.ebay.com/northbaycuttingtools

four jaw chuck - 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CUG3418CCX.html

a good friend recommended this one - 220
but will i really benefit??
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSC3000CTN.html

but what about this chuck? 80
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSCPENCHK.html

die holder - 10
http://www.wttool.com/index/page/pr...tegory_id/14647/product_name/Die+Holders+(WT)

collet and chuck set 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html

extra collets - which of these might I need? 9 each
http://www.discount-tools.com/er32-collets.cfm

and a steady rest - 40
should I get one?
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Steady-Rest-With-Ball-Bearing-Guides/H5569
 
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watch_art said:
Delta lathe!!! 600 w/ 50 mail in rebate
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00309ZZRQ/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

center drills 7 Not sure what you need these for
http://www.amazon.com/HSCD-10-Double-Center-Spiral-Flutes/dp/B002GV2RAC/ref=pd_sbs_indust_6

drill bits 40 - or should I get individual bits of sizes that I'll use most often, like the taps? I have a set of DeWalt pilot point bits in 64th" graduations and love them. I would much prefer this to having to get bits for each kit/use.
That's what I'm thinking. Any suggestions?
http://www.harborfreight.com/115-piece-high-speed-drill-bit-set-with-index-528.html

drill chuck 32
http://www.amazon.com/PSI-Woodworking-Products-TM32-Diameter/dp/B004CVJC20/ref=pd_cart_recs1

Live center - 16 Your lathe will come with a live center.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KIEPSA/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

taps and dies from roginsf on ebay - 68
http://stores.ebay.com/northbaycuttingtools

four jaw chuck - 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CUG3418CCX.html

a good friend recommended this one - 220
but will i really benefit??
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSC3000CTN.html

but what about this chuck? 80
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSCPENCHK.html

die holder - 10
http://www.wttool.com/index/page/pr...tegory_id/14647/product_name/Die+Holders+(WT)

collet and chuck set 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html

extra collets - which of these might I need? 9 each
http://www.discount-tools.com/er32-collets.cfm

and a steady rest - 40
should I get one? Not sure what you are going to use it for. If you are just doing pens, then I see no need for a steady rest. I have 2, a spindle steady and a bowl steady but they are never used for pens.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Steady-Rest-With-Ball-Bearing-Guides/H5569
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Thanks!
And my notes in green - b/c it's my favorite color!! :biggrin:

MesquiteMan said:
See my notes in red.

watch_art said:
Delta lathe!!! 600 w/ 50 mail in rebate
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00309ZZRQ/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

center drills 7 Not sure what you need these for B/c I read that it makes starting a hole in a barrel easier. Is it not really necessary?
http://www.amazon.com/HSCD-10-Double-Center-Spiral-Flutes/dp/B002GV2RAC/ref=pd_sbs_indust_6

drill bits 40 - or should I get individual bits of sizes that I'll use most often, like the taps? I have a set of DeWalt pilot point bits in 64th" graduations and love them. I would much prefer this to having to get bits for each kit/use. So a kit is the way to go? That's kinda what I figured. I'll check out the DeWalt. Thanks.
That's what I'm thinking. Any suggestions?
http://www.harborfreight.com/115-piece-high-speed-drill-bit-set-with-index-528.html

drill chuck 32
http://www.amazon.com/PSI-Woodworking-Products-TM32-Diameter/dp/B004CVJC20/ref=pd_cart_recs1

Live center - 16 Your lathe will come with a live center. Really? Cool! Didn't know that.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KIEPSA/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

taps and dies from roginsf on ebay - 68
http://stores.ebay.com/northbaycuttingtools

four jaw chuck - 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CUG3418CCX.html

a good friend recommended this one - 220
but will i really benefit??
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSC3000CTN.html

but what about this chuck? 80
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSCPENCHK.html

die holder - 10
http://www.wttool.com/index/page/pr...tegory_id/14647/product_name/Die+Holders+(WT)

collet and chuck set 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html

extra collets - which of these might I need? 9 each
http://www.discount-tools.com/er32-collets.cfm

and a steady rest - 40
should I get one? Not sure what you are going to use it for. If you are just doing pens, then I see no need for a steady rest. I have 2, a spindle steady and a bowl steady but they are never used for pens. It was suggested. I'd like to try w/o one to see how I do. Hopefully I won't need it. :)
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Steady-Rest-With-Ball-Bearing-Guides/H5569
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What do you all think of the idea of me going to Lowe's and getting some of those clear toilet plunger handles? Would those be worth turning?

Thanks!
 
If you are looking to practice on turning something, pm me your address, and I'll send you some maple blanks to practice on. They are about 10" long. I bought a box them off of Ebay a couple of years ago and wouldn't mind sharing. You can also get some hardwood dowels to practice on. I turned a couple of them to learn to do CA finishes on.

Doug
 
WHSKYrvr1 said:
If you are looking to practice on turning something, pm me your address, and I'll send you some maple blanks to practice on. They are about 10" long. I bought a box them off of Ebay a couple of years ago and wouldn't mind sharing. You can also get some hardwood dowels to practice on. I turned a couple of them to learn to do CA finishes on.

Doug
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I got some oak pieces that are about 5" I can also send. I heard good things about the dedicated pen holder-(80). Maybe you can hold off on the 4 jaw-(90) one for now.
 
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Come to the next Chapter meeting, I'll load you down with freebie-blanks to practice with!!!


Only thing I really see missing from the list, is some CA glue from Monty!!!!






Scott (might want to bring a box to put 'em in) B
 
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watch_art said:
After the $50 rebate from Delta my total comes to 903.
Am I being realistic or are some of the items on my list a joke?

Thanks!




Delta lathe!!! 600 w/ 50 mail in rebate
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00309ZZRQ/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

center drills 7
http://www.amazon.com/HSCD-10-Double-Center-Spiral-Flutes/dp/B002GV2RAC/ref=pd_sbs_indust_6 These can be handy but not really needed.

drill bits 40 - or should I get individual bits of sizes that I'll use most often, like the taps?
That's what I'm thinking. Any suggestions?
http://www.harborfreight.com/115-piece-high-speed-drill-bit-set-with-index-528.html Everyone has their own opinion about this (like how best to do a CA finish). I personally like this set. It will allow you to choose the "best fit" bit. Sometimes you want a slightly larger bit when you paint the inside of the blank and the tube to allow for the paint thickness.

drill chuck 32
http://www.amazon.com/PSI-Woodworking-Products-TM32-Diameter/dp/B004CVJC20/ref=pd_cart_recs1

Live center - 16
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KIEPSA/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

taps and dies from roginsf on ebay - 68
http://stores.ebay.com/northbaycuttingtools Not necessary unless ou are doing kitless pens, then you will only need specific ones.

four jaw chuck - 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CUG3418CCX.html You can do 99.9% of what you need for turning pens with this set. The next two are nice, but not necessary, IMHO.

a good friend recommended this one - 220
but will i really benefit??
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSC3000CTN.html

but what about this chuck? 80
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSCPENCHK.html

die holder - 10
http://www.wttool.com/index/page/pr...tegory_id/14647/product_name/Die+Holders+(WT) Again, not necessary until you start kitless.

collet and chuck set 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html Good starter set, but check eBay, sometimes you can find them cheaper.

extra collets - which of these might I need? 9 each
http://www.discount-tools.com/er32-collets.cfm Buy as you find they are needed for a specific use

and a steady rest - 40
should I get one?
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Steady-Rest-With-Ball-Bearing-Guides/H5569 Again, not needed for pens.
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The only thing I would add is a transfer punch set from HF. It's a lifesaver for disassembling pens and making pin chucks.
 
watch_art said:
After the $50 rebate from Delta my total comes to 903.
Am I being realistic or are some of the items on my list a joke?
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If you intend to get into kitless pens, you will probably need everything on the list except the steady rest. You will need pen kits, mandrel, and bushings.

drill bits 40 - or should I get individual bits of sizes that I'll use most often, like the taps?
That's what I'm thinking. Any suggestions?
http://www.harborfreight.com/115-piece-high-speed-drill-bit-set-with-index-528.html
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Buy the set and then replace the most often used sizes with GOOD QUALITY bits such as Chicago-Latrobe, Cleveland or Norseman.

taps and dies from roginsf on ebay - 68
http://stores.ebay.com/northbaycuttingtools
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The only tap you may need are 3/8" for bottle stoppers. unless you are going to do custom front ends or kitless pens. Many of the places that sell front ends also have the taps that match. The taps tend to be odd-ball sizes not in the standard sets.

four jaw chuck - 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CUG3418CCX.html

a good friend recommended this one - 220
but will i really benefit??
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSC3000CTN.html

but what about this chuck? 80
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSCPENCHK.html
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My suggestion is to get the CSC3000C (but not the TN one). PSI sells a pen chuck jaw set for this chuck so you don't need the pen chuck. http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CJAWPEN.html

die holder - 10
http://www.wttool.com/index/page/product/product_id/27753/category_id/14647/product_name/Die+Holders+%28WT%29

collet and chuck set 90
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html

extra collets - which of these might I need? 9 each
http://www.discount-tools.com/er32-collets.cfm
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These collets have a clamping range of 1/16" You should get an 18 piece metric set. The imperial sets don't cover the entire range of sizes. There are sizes you can't clamp in the Imperial sets.

and a steady rest - 40
should I get one?
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Steady-Rest-With-Ball-Bearing-Guides/H5569
Click to expand...
Not really needed.
 
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Need to add a grinder for sharpening your lathe tools.

Speaking of lathe tools, I don't see any on your list.

At some point in time you'll want to pick up a cheap bandsaw off Craigslist to get you going making your own blanks.

Face mask or at least safety goggles if you don't have them already.
 
Face mask for sure. I don't like goggles. They fog up too bad.
My dad has plenty of skews and things I can use - they may just need a good sharpening.

Forgot about a slow speed bench grinder. That's a must. I'm surprised Lowe's only has medium and high speeds on the shelf. I shouldn't be surprised, I'm sure. I did see some small bandsaws at the store though. That was pretty cool. I've got enough scrap ply and 2bys in my shop to build a decent table. I'll have my printing press on one end, and the lathe on the other. :D
 
The set looks good at a good price. IMHO, I would not go with the MT2 collet chuck as it limits how much blank can be inserted into it. Either the PSI or Bealle chuck. I know, more money but you'll be happier with it.

As for the other collet sets out there, these are the ones most own but he's not on ebay any longer. http://amtools.com/search.aspx?find=er32+collets
 
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A grinder setup for sharpening tools can be really expensive if you get the jig attachment to get the angles right. Buying a $16 set of diamond files to sharpen your tools to begin with is what I've been doing. Not easy to keep the angles right, but if money's tight, it's the cheapest way to get sharp tools.

I would, however, recommend you buy a carbide replaceable tipped chisel, which is far cheaper than a grinder setup or a dedicated chisel sharpening system.
 
Your list looks pretty good to me. EXCEPT, I would NEVER spend $220 on that chuck. IMHO, it's junk. For $140 you can get a Nova chuck. The Nova chuck is more precise, runs truer, and all Nova jaws are interchangeable with all Nova Chucks.

With the $80 savings on the Nova chuck, you could buy a very nice selection of Colt 5 Star bits.
 
watch_art said:
but then there's this:
After shipping is almost 130. Yay or nay?
I hate spending money. I second guess every decision about 30 times.

http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-18/FULL-ER32-COLLET-SET/Detail

http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-36/ER32-MT2-MK2-COLLET/Detail
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Shawn; Get the Metric set. It covers the whole range of sizes and usually cheaper too! Caution on the collet chuck with a taper attached. You can only put about 1-1/2" into the collet because the taper fills up the center of the headstock.
 
Parson said:
A grinder setup for sharpening tools can be really expensive if you get the jig attachment to get the angles right. Buying a $16 set of diamond files to sharpen your tools to begin with is what I've been doing. Not easy to keep the angles right, but if money's tight, it's the cheapest way to get sharp tools.
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Check out This video and all the videos by Captn' Eddie Castelin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw5eeWvubBw

I would, however, recommend you buy a carbide replaceable tipped chisel, which is far cheaper than a grinder setup or a dedicated chisel sharpening system.
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You can sharpen these carbide bits easily with a diamond hone credit card.
 
You will need some serious lung cleaning stuff. So much of what we do is exotic and you have two choices...react now, or have a reaction later. I use a Trend and 40 minutes ago had a small olive wood bowl blow up in 3's taking two in the shield. Got a big smooch from my sweetie for doing it right! Keep your lungs clean...bottom line, I don't want you as a patient and wont if you do it right.
 
So - turns out I just ordered everything. :D

I got the apprentice collet/chuck. 97

Delta. 599

Die Holder. 20

bits and a drill chuck. 41 & 31

4 jaw chuck 99

Taps and dies for kitless stuff from ebay 68

All of this after shipping was $953.
I can't believe I had a thousand in pen stuffs to sell.

Will purchase #5 and 6 nib unit taps for Meisternibs from silverpenparts.com when I get the money.

:)

Very happy. And very anxious to get it all and start playing around.
 
watch_art said:
So - turns out I just ordered everything. :D

I got the apprentice collet/chuck. 97

Delta. 599

Die Holder. 20

bits and a drill chuck. 41 & 31

4 jaw chuck 99

Taps and dies for kitless stuff from ebay 68

All of this after shipping was $953.
I can't believe I had a thousand in pen stuffs to sell.

Will purchase #5 and 6 nib unit taps for Meisternibs from silverpenparts.com when I get the money.

:)

Very happy. And very anxious to get it all and start playing around.
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Looks like you are very well on your way down the vortex, you have a much better start then I did. Nice choice of tools.
 
Well

If you buy a set of drill bits buy the most complete set you can get. Personally have gone both the low cost and a darn good set routes you'll be happier if you get a better set. But, a single set will probably not cover all of your needs - most of them stop at about a half inch and the bigger pens use bigger bits 37/64th is the biggest I've seen.
 
if you have all that extra money sitting around I could use a heating system for the shop (formerly the place where cars go)
 
watch_art said:
So - turns out I just ordered everything. :D

I got the apprentice collet/chuck. 97

Delta. 599

Die Holder. 20

bits and a drill chuck. 41 & 31

4 jaw chuck 99

Taps and dies for kitless stuff from ebay 68

All of this after shipping was $953.
I can't believe I had a thousand in pen stuffs to sell.

Will purchase #5 and 6 nib unit taps for Meisternibs from silverpenparts.com when I get the money.

:)

Very happy. And very anxious to get it all and start playing around.
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Got a nice little shopping list there. Welcome to the addiction and have fun!
 
Extra money? Ha! :biggrin:

I sold my entire fountain pen collection to get that money and even then had to scrounge up a little bit more. I still have a couple pens left to sell so hopefully will be finding those nib unit taps in my mailbox soon. ;)
 
you have it worse than I thought. Next will be family collectibles(I will advise against selling those) Doesnt matter how many pieces of Ebonite they will buy with the sale of one.

Welcome to our own little form of madness.

You may want to add a hardhat so you dont scratch your head bald trying to figure stuff out.

Phil(looking forward to what you create)
 
I highly recommend the drill set --

Ultra-Dex Magnum Super Premium Heavy Duty Drill Bit Set

--sold by BB at ArizonaSilhouette.com

$106 in the metal box, and these are HIGH quality bits.
 
Holy Cow!
Look at what the lathe comes with and I didn't even notice till a friend pointed it out!

Product Description

Includes 12-1/2-in Variable-Speed Midi Lathe - 46-460,
Midi-Lathe Stand - 46-462
, Midi-Lathe Bed Extension - 46-463
, Midi-Lathe Modular Stand Extension - 46-464,
Reversible NOVA G3-D Woodturning Chuck - 46-461,
6-in Tool Rest, 10-in Tool Rest,
Tool Rest Base,
3-in Chrome Face Plate,
Spur Center,
Live Center,
Knockout Bar
, Wrenches


And thanks for the link on the drill bits.

AND, I just got off the phone with PSI, and asked the lady if I could just cancel the 4 jaw chuck I ordered yesterday. She said it's already out in the warehouse and ready to go, but when I get it I can write REFUSE on the box and just send it back to get a refund. She seemed very nice - a good mark for PSI.
 
watch_art said:
Holy Cow!
Look at what the lathe comes with and I didn't even notice till a friend pointed it out!

Product Description

Includes 12-1/2-in Variable-Speed Midi Lathe - 46-460,
Midi-Lathe Stand - 46-462
, Midi-Lathe Bed Extension - 46-463
, Midi-Lathe Modular Stand Extension - 46-464,
Reversible NOVA G3-D Woodturning Chuck - 46-461,
6-in Tool Rest, 10-in Tool Rest,
Tool Rest Base,
3-in Chrome Face Plate,
Spur Center,
Live Center,
Knockout Bar
, Wrenches


And thanks for the link on the drill bits.

AND, I just got off the phone with PSI, and asked the lady if I could just cancel the 4 jaw chuck I ordered yesterday. She said it's already out in the warehouse and ready to go, but when I get it I can write REFUSE on the box and just send it back to get a refund. She seemed very nice - a good mark for PSI.
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Be careful that is what you get and extras that you can buy look at the what is in the box description in the previous paragraph.

What's in the Box
12-1/2-inch variable-speed midi lathe, 6-inch and 10-inch tool rests, chrome 3-inch face plate, tool rest base, knockout bar, live center, wrenches, and manual.
 
watch_art said:
Holy Cow!
Look at what the lathe comes with and I didn't even notice till a friend pointed it out!

Product Description

Includes 12-1/2-in Variable-Speed Midi Lathe - 46-460,
Midi-Lathe Stand - 46-462
, Midi-Lathe Bed Extension - 46-463
, Midi-Lathe Modular Stand Extension - 46-464,
Reversible NOVA G3-D Woodturning Chuck - 46-461,
6-in Tool Rest, 10-in Tool Rest,
Tool Rest Base,
3-in Chrome Face Plate,
Spur Center,
Live Center,
Knockout Bar
, Wrenches


And thanks for the link on the drill bits.

AND, I just got off the phone with PSI, and asked the lady if I could just cancel the 4 jaw chuck I ordered yesterday. She said it's already out in the warehouse and ready to go, but when I get it I can write REFUSE on the box and just send it back to get a refund. She seemed very nice - a good mark for PSI.
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Two things -
1) I think you discovered a flaw in the amazon page. I don't think the 461, 462, 463, 464 are included. Look at the "whats in the box" above it. Amazon has a bundle for $881 with the 460, 461, 462... I think someone screwed up the product description.

2) If you find out that my #1 is true - you may want to consider if the chuck you ordered from PSI can be used in reverse on your lathe. Most cannot - you might need one with a spindle lock if you want to use it in reverse.
 
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