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OK I'll try again

Like others say these still look like Jigs/clamps to help in knocking off corners getting close to round.

Now here's another thought no one has mentioned. Don't know if it's possible,

The machine perhaps a planer (others mention saws and sanders)

How it mite work.
The back one would be for the square. You would lye the jig on its side and push/pull through the planer giving a nice clean edge.

Then the blank goes to the front one and the corners are knocked off getting close to round and the blank has a fairly nice clean finish.

Now the thing that really throws me is the small blocks on top they have notches & tabs in them. They look like some sort of gauge or measuring guide.

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Another thought,

The back one, seems you cast most your resin in blocks then cut them to size.
I was thinking the back one could hold the block and as you cut you just move the block up and cut another.....

BUT as I type I can see this possible but I can foresee other problems with this route so it's probably not likely.

Still watching and curious
This is fun


Now if I lived down under I mite recognize some of these gadgets and lingo....
Hey Mate :wink:
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Just took another look. These hold your already squared blanks and you use it on the bandsaw to knock off the corners to lighten the load for shipping.

That is the right answer Chris, congratulations...!:wink::biggrin:

It pays sometimes, to take notice of what I say/show/share, huh..???

There is no need for me to load any more pics about this jig, I have dedicate a thread about it, long ago so have a look here

With question-8 being sorted, what I had plan for the next question, was all of a certain changed after I got a very interesting request from someone that knocked on my door this morning.

So lets go...!

PS: Chris, I will be sending you a PM shortly with some info..!


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* Question - 9


*The following pics are the result of this morning's visitor, it has a funny story attached but that, I keep for when I announce this question's winner...!:rolleyes:

This fountain/pen set with timber case, 006.JPG 009.JPG 011.JPG 012.JPG 013.JPG (sorry for the poor pics quality, I took them without natural light (flash, only) was what the visitor took home, can you tell me;


*- What's worth...??? (score of 80 out of 100 points for this correct answer or the one closer to the sold value...!)

* - What is it made of...??? (score of 10 points out of 100 for this answer)

*- What kit is it...??? (score of 10 points out of 100 for this answer)

Good luck,

Cheers
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Foam cut into strips to protect lathe from damage, when dropping tools or finishes?!

Hahahah, I like to look after my tools but that is just over my head, well and truly. Actually, my lathe (Nova 1624-44) that I purchased new, is a workhorse and it has many scars of war for all the stuff I do on it, glue, varnish, paint, and all sorts of stuff that gets stuck to it, are quite visible however, it will be a lot easier and quicker to re-paint the whole thing with the same original paint and colour, if I decide to sell it, it would look almost like new.

My workshop is an open war ground, if is not dirty, that means that I'm sick, on that note, I prefer to be buried in sawdust and shavings...!:eek::wink::biggrin:

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OK I'll try again

Like others say these still look like Jigs/clamps to help in knocking off corners getting close to round.

Now here's another thought no one has mentioned. Don't know if it's possible,

The machine perhaps a planer (others mention saws and sanders)

How it mite work.
The back one would be for the square. You would lye the jig on its side and push/pull through the planer giving a nice clean edge.

Then the blank goes to the front one and the corners are knocked off getting close to round and the blank has a fairly nice clean finish.

Now the thing that really throws me is the small blocks on top they have notches & tabs in them. They look like some sort of gauge or measuring guide.

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Great thoughts Bruce, great thoughts...!:wink::biggrin:

Cheers
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Well.....

Worth....$150.00 lots of depending factors (mainly your market)
Wood....Austrian Platypus Gum
Kit....Well...
Ball point looks like a Designer but maybe an older one the band has 2 black rings instead of the 1 you typically see now and the high step on the NIB throws me.
Fountain again looks like it mite mixed parts the NIB is close to that of a Classic but it looks like the cap mite be a snap on (no threads) the center band on both has me a little puzzled I think these are older out of production kits or maybe you get the parts. Got to spend more time digging.

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Question #9

Sold for $145 US dollars, around $133 Australian
Wood is Jarrah (Red Gum)
Kit is, Round Top Gold Fountain pen kit and Slim Euro Round top, both with modified top made from wood
 

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Wood? Cedar

Kit? Who knows?(-10)

Worth? It's priceless. I mean, come on... Having a friend drop by and gift you a nice set... Priceless!
 

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Wood? Cedar

Kit? Who knows?(-10)

Worth? It's priceless. I mean, come on... Having a friend drop by and gift you a nice set... Priceless!

Excuse me Mr. David Keller...! and who told you that the set was giving to me...??? :eek::wink::wink::biggrin: actually, the very opposite is correct, well sort of...!:confused::)

Wait for the story, you will crack your coconut laughing...!:biggrin:

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As for the answers given so far, not a single one is even close, apart from the (??), those I accept...!:wink:

Come on guys, you gotta give me better than that, don't be so "cheap"...!:eek::wink::biggrin:

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Ok, not to be cheap, it is Priceless for the trio to your visitor or $300 whichever is closer.

It is some of your "Ancient" red gum.

Kit is, Round Top Gold Fountain pen kit and Slim Euro Round top, both with modified top made from wood (that's my story and I'm sticking to it)
 

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Well, you guys seem to be not so sure of what I have shown on those pics, even with poor quality, that tells me that, you guys know that something is not right...!:confused:, yeah sure, I understand why and I will tell you the reason, when I announce the winner but, for now, I only can say that, there is a bigger issue here, one that "hurts" a lot of people in this Industry and from where I stand, is not going to get any better...!

The winning answer, is based essentially (as it worth 80 points out of 100) on the closest pen set value given, to the correct one.

The winner will be announced this evening (Australia time) so, seat tight...!:)

Cheers
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Alright, I have no idea what's going on here with the back story on this set, but I'll go $400 bucks on the set.
 

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Pen kit is round top European

it's a round top European Bubinga set, sold for $100

Congratulations mate, you have the lowest amount, and while far from correct, you are the closest one so, you get the prize...!

As for the kit and woods, I have no idea what I can tell you is that, they are made in China so, anything is possible...!

So, what is the story and its moral...????

Well, as I mention before, someone knocked at my door, referred by one of the guys that visited me a few months ago, to get some pens blanks. This old fellow has told me that, the other guy said that I make pens and also wooden boxes to go with them, he continued on saying that, he had promised a fountain and pen set to one of his friends for his birthday and he forgot all about it, until the day before the birthday so, he panic and drove 40 km to see me, very early the next day, in hope I could make him a set for the afternoon barbecue at his friends place.

This poor fellow, is a pensioner so, he said that he didn't had much money to spend, the maximum would the $50.00...!:eek:

He got me out of bed so, I invited him for a cuppa while listening to his problem. The thing was, I felt quite relaxed within 15 minutes of this guy arrival, I knew straight away that I had just the right thing to get him and me, out of troubles as I couldn't possibly make a set and a box that day so, I told him not to worry, as I was able to help him out.

Took him down to the workshop, showed him around and then took him the my "lolly-shop" (shed) where I keep all the finished blanks and other stuff. This poor fellow was lost among all that, he is not a woodworker nor knows much about wood but, he was just overwhelmed with what he had around him. That was when I told him that I couldn't possibly make the type set we wanted and the wooden box that day nor I could make it for such little money however, I had something already done, that would get him out of troubles...!

I went to one of the shelves and pulled out a box, open the box, removed the contents from its original plastics and put it in the table, looked at him and asked, "will this do...???" (didn't mention prices), the olf fellow looked at me and said, "I don't have that sort of money, I only have $50.00 and that looks expensive...!":frown:

I could tell that the old fellow was a bit nervous and recognizing that he was a smoker, I advised him to come out of the shed and have a "fag" to calm down. He done just that and while I don't smoke any more, I was enjoying the smell from his cigarette so, I looked at him and said, "have you got a "tenner"($10.00 note)..???", he replied, "yes I do, why...???", well mate, I said, "that's all that pens set will cost you...!", he looked at me with his eyes nearly jumping out of his face and said, " are you giving it away...???" I replied, "not at all mate, these things are made in China by the container full and I purchased a bunch of them on eBay a few years back, for $4.50 per set + freight, I actually purchased a full 3kg postal bag that cost me $8.20 (then) so I got about 15 of these sets, all almost gone...!"

The next thing, he is asking me, "do they work/right..???" I replied, "absolutely, and quite well, I may say...!", we went inside the shed again, I put a ink cartridge of the fountain, grabbed a piece of paper and asked him to have a go, which he did. "Yeap", he said, "that will do just nicely, my friend is going to be pleased...!":)

So, I got the $10 bucks that I sold all the other sets also for, and the old fellow was on his way, about 1 hour after he arrived, with a bog smile on his face...!:wink::biggrin:


These same sets 015.JPG were the main subject of a tread that I made on the Australian Woodturners forum, some years back, where the subject was, "How can you compete with this...!", there are maybe a few members here that were also members of that forum at the time, and they may remember that thread...!

The issue has not changed since, if anything, has become more obvious, there are just too many to name and anyone can search and see for themselves...!


The MORAL of this story and question - 9 is, is not difficult to "fool" pen makers with these Chinese products, imagine how easy will be for someone with no idea about these issues, to be taken to the cleaners by blokes that would have no hesitation to charge $100.00 if not more for these sets, and claim that they are handmade by themselves...!

And the most scary thing is, these Chinese products are getting better, than never before...!:mad:

OK, now that question - 9 is over and done with, lets focus on the next question...!

PS: maxwell_smart007, I will send you a PM shortly, with some info.:)


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* Question - 10


* In the pics shown here 005.JPG 008.JPG is a blank that I made today as a test, the main material used (coloured material) I bought it in 1 (one) meter lengths in a pack with various colours, what is it...???

Are there other alternatives...???

Good luck,

Cheers
George
 
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Craft foam pen blank (Resifill)

Dave,

The answer to your question is, I don't know, but you just gave me a reason to perform one more test, when I get the chance...!

Cheers
George

Ya gotta let me know when you get around to trying it.

This one is for you Dave,

Cheers
George
 

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OK I looked enough

Appears to be a stir stick or straw of some type.

There are lots of long colored straws out there in different diameters. Some that glow in the dark, neon multi color and so on.

Now looking again...It looks like it mite be straws cut into smaller pieces and maybe even slit so they can interlink for a better effect.

If it's not that (or something close) then I think there is a good idea.
I want credit :wink: well along with George :frown:

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OK looked again....

I raised and kept fish all my life...So after looking again looks like could be something like colored vinyl/plastic air tube. I see clear or what is slightly tinted translucent tubing in there.

Thought about heat shrink also but that is usually thin wall and rolled up flat. Then there's the heat, I guess that is were experimenting comes in.

heatshink.jpg


Then I came across Craft Tubing
PLASTIC_COLOR_CRAFT_TUBE.jpg

Thought about the sheathing for wires but that stuff is usually corrugated.
PVC_coated_flexible_conduit.jpg

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Sheathing is smooth insulted outer wiring in UK. The corrugated stuff is cable conduit?!

Ahhh yes I see that from time to time

The lingo I'm talking about things are said a little different over the pond or down under it's in. vs. mm :hypnotized:

But I am enjoying this and others can get some good ideas.

It's all good keep em coming George. :beer:

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Is that the foam sheeting?

Very bright!!

Dave,

The answer to your question is, I don't know, but you just gave me a reason to perform one more test, when I get the chance...!

Cheers
George

Ya gotta let me know when you get around to trying it.

This one is for you Dave,

Cheers
George

G'day Philb,

It sure is, I simple bundle all the foam coloured sheets together, cut through a strip of about 3/4" and cast with clear PR and some new blue product I purchased from my local resin supplier. I then decided to drill the full blank and glue a 4mm brass tube that I had from another job, that same resin mix was used to make the blank on question - 9, the new product is what is making the blue hairs effect...!:)

Cheers
George
 
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so it can be done.

No flies on your back

Do you think it something you will do more of or just one of those things, tried it, wont do again?

Dave,

No flies here, mate...!

Are you asking me to make some of these blanks for you...????:wink::biggrin:

I may need to buy another pack of the craft foam as I can make a bigger mold with 7 pen blanks, I will need a full pack of foam for that but, it that is what you want, we can discuss that off the thread...!

If 7 are too many for you, maybe someone else here, would like to try a couple however, I should note that, these blanks are not for beginners, there are procedures that have to be put in place to deal with the rubberized nature of the foam, as the blank is worked on, very thin CA (5 cup) is the trick and then 10+ coats of CA take care of the foam strength...!

If I can make Resifills out of Cork, I and anyone else, can make them out of foam or rubber...!:wink::biggrin:

Cheers
George
 
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Sheathing is smooth insulted outer wiring in UK. The corrugated stuff is cable conduit?!

Ahhh yes I see that from time to time

The lingo I'm talking about things are said a little different over the pond or down under it's in. vs. mm :hypnotized:

But I am enjoying this and others can get some good ideas.

It's all good keep em coming George. :beer:

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G'day Bruce,

Talking about "lingo", I get my good share of that problem...!:eek::mad:

You are giving us great options, they fit right in on the second part of question - 9, "Are there other alternatives...???"

Yes, is the "idea" based on these type of materials, together with the way its cut and what you make the resin to look like, among all those channels/crevesses, etc., that can produce interesting results...!:wink:

Cheers
George
 
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