Wood Bowl Blanks...

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Old Codger

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I'm a newbie (just started turning a year ago...) and I've just received a number of 6" X 6" X 3" wood blanks as Christmas gifts... My question is, since they are all covered in a thick covering of wax (or a similar product...) I'm not sure how to handle them... Do I need to let them breath and dry out, although I can't understand how, since they are covered in a thick coating of wax. In the past, I've taken green cut wood blanks and placed them in plastic bags and let them sweat out the moisture until they were dry enough to turn without warping... Sooo what do I do, remove the wax, place in plastic bags or???? Sorry this may sound dumb, but I've never seen or read how to handle this situation and I'm particularly cautious since the wood is gorgeous! Thanks for your prompt answers and safe turning to all throughout this New Year!
 
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I am no where near an expert, but I have done quite a bit of reseach on turning bowls and I have also found that every bowl turner has a different process. While all have similarities, they are all unique. What I have found and what I do is to leave the wax on until intial turning. On the intial turning I rough the bowl out and get it into the basic shape that I want - going down to about 1" in thickness. Then, I would place them in bags to dry out. When they are dry, I would turn them to the final shape/form. Just my $0.02 - and my method, but it may not be THE "correct' method other, more expereinced turners use.
 
I am no where near an expert, but I have done quite a bit of reseach on turning bowls and I have also found that every bowl turner has a different process. While all have similarities, they are all unique. What I have found and what I do is to leave the wax on until intial turning. On the intial turning I rough the bowl out and get it into the basic shape that I want - going down to about 1" in thickness. Then, I would place them in bags to dry out. When they are dry, I would turn them to the final shape/form. Just my $0.02 - and my method, but it may not be THE "correct' method other, more expereinced turners use.

Yes, your method is correct for those sort of blanks, they are dipped in thick wax because the wood was cut green and the wax is the only thing that will protect that blanks from cracking like mad while drying. The thick coat to wax will force the wood to dry very, very slowly, fast drying = cracks, every time.

Unfortunately, the blanks are not marked with the date they were processed/waxed, we know the wood was green but, how long ago was that blank waxed...??? It could have been last week, last month, last year or a few years ago, while the first options would make the wood super green and wet, blanks waxed long ago, could possible the dry or close to so, the only way to find out is to measure the blank(s) Moisture content (MC %).

This is done by scraping a little bit of the wax on the end-gain (more accurate) using a common Moisture Gauge, they are found on eBay for 30 bucks or so (2 probe ones) I have one of these that has come with blue carry case, and is a good idea but watch for the probes with 2 spikes only, I prefer those.

If the wood reads about 35% or above, the wood is very green, I would let it settle a little longer until it gets about 20% or less and depending on what the wood is, most woods are dry at about 12%MC.

Don't remove the wax unless, you are ready to rough turn it, sure you can rough turn a piece of wood that has come from a tree cut hours prior, you may get a bath in the process (water) but that won't harm you however, if that is the case, make sure you leave at least 1" thickness all over the blank, you can further protect that wood by soaking it in various types of wood preservers or simply use its shavings to wrap around/cover the piece and put it in a cardboard box. If inside of a plastic bag, the wood can develop blue stain from mould or spalting from various fungi types that are common and present is certain woods, this will be your choice...!

Don't need to worry about that small area where the wax was removed for the MC % test, if the reading show close enough to 14%, you can turn and finish that piece to size, sand and finish it as you wish...!:wink::biggrin:

I hope this helps...!

PS: Remember that, "correct procedures" are as diverse as people doing them however correct, some are more efficient/safe than others...!

Cheers
George
 
Both of these guys give good advice. I've had waxed blanks that pretty wet but also some that were dry.
If you turn it wet, plan on some movement when you are done. If you want to minimize the movement just turn the bowl thick 1"-1.25", wax or seal the end grain (or you can seal the whole thing) and let it sit on the shelf for a while. I know some wrap the blanks or store them in shavings but I've had good luck just tossing a bunch of them on the shelf.
When it's time to turn a bowl, I mount the bowl in a jam chuck and true up the tenon. Finish the outside of the bowl and then turn it around and do the inside. Turn off the tenon (or make it into a foot) and you are done.
 
I don't get much green wood yet, but when I do just turn it to 10% of the final thickness and toss in DNA for a week. Remove, wrap in newspaper, poke a hole in the bowl side and let sit for a couple weeks. Turn to final thickness...it will warp while drying, finish to your pleasure!! There are some circumstances where DNA should not be used. IMHO, not the final end all, but it works very well for me.
 
the wood dry at the speed of 1 cm per year for logs, faster for small pieces.

green wood turning is very fun.

with your 6x6x3 you can turn small rice bowls with a small feet.
the thickness of the wall will be 1/4 or under & put it in a micro wave to dry it slowly.
it will warp and give surprising results
 
Thanks everyone! I appreciate your prompt responses and will try to rough turn one as everyone has suggested and let it dry a bit before smooth turning and finishing it... Some other turners have suggested I 'weigh' the rough turning weekly prior to final turning and finishing... i.e.; if the rough turning stops loosing weight, it's dry and ready to finish turning... Any advice here???
 
I like turning 'green' bowl blanks, they cut easier. I use the '10% wall thickness', if the bowl is to be 10inches diameter, then the rim is left at 1" thickness.

Put the 'raw bowl' into a DNA soak for 18 to 36 hours, then remove and place into brown paper bag(upside down) for drying....finish at some point later in time.


Scott (leave the wax on until you want to turn) B
 
Wax's Bowl Blanks...

Thanks everyone!!! I've ordered a moisture meter and will look for a good weigh scale so I can keep track and record the moisture loss on my new bowl blanks! Since they are mostly exotics, I don't want to loose even one and will take extra care to ensure they are dry enough to turn and finish.
Again, thanks to everyone and safe turning to all this New Year!
 
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