why did my pen bleed ?

[old folks]

I just turned a pen from Beth. Olive Wood, the shape is good but the black started to bleed...can anyone tell me why ?

The white near the band is a shine from my scanner, not a mistake.

 

[Old Griz]

What do mean by bleeding.... ??

 

[old folks]

Originally posted by Old Griz
<br />What do mean by bleeding.... ??

The black lines started to spread...smear...bleed

John

 

[wicook]

That looks almost like spalting instead of grain. I've never heard of growth rings "bleeding." For that matter, I've never heard of spalting bleeding either, but since it's a fungus, it seems more likely that that could happen. Maybe someone who has more experience than I do can answer more accurately. The pen doesn't look like the BOW I've turned. The grain doesn't look quite right.

 

[jdavis]

I agree with Bill. Doesn't look like BOW wood.Have not experienced bleeding.

 

[Rifleman1776]

My thughts, exactly. But that is only guessing from ignorance. Maybe Mik can pitch in here with some answers about olive wood spalting.

Originally posted by wicook
<br />That looks almost like spalting instead of grain. I've never heard of growth rings "bleeding." For that matter, I've never heard of spalting bleeding either, but since it's a fungus, it seems more likely that that could happen. Maybe someone who has more experience than I do can answer more accurately. The pen doesn't look like the BOW I've turned. The grain doesn't look quite right.

 

[Old Griz]

I have to agree with all said here.. I have never heard of spalting or grain lines bleeding and the more I look at this pen, the less I think it is BOW...
Here is a pic of some BOW I did over the weekend

Notice the definate color difference in the wood

... BOW seems to have a more creamy tan look... it also does not have the open pores that this piece of wood seems to have...
The only think I can think of you meaning is that the black of the grain/spalting sanded into the open pores of the heartwood... unless you are talking about this happening after the finish was put on... then I am at a total loss as to what happened...

 

[Mac In Oak Ridge]

Tom,
Are those pens or something else?

 

[Old Griz]

Those are perfume applicators Mac... they sell real well for me... I sold about 30 or more over Christmas as $30 a pop...

 

[mik]

Hi John

This does not look at all like olive wood.
But!!
When you touch the pen does it have a silky feel? Did you notice the aroma whilst turning? - sort of sweet?
If so, then there are number of scenarios:

• The wood is extremely young and whilst drying developed an fungicidal growth or young wood that has been in a damp place for a long time?
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• A reaction to your finishing process ie CA etc - will dissolve the fungi
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• I am not suggesting it, but I have come across pressure filling the wood with dye to enhance grain unaturally - this only possible in young wood or again damp and spongy wood - the finishing will alo possibly dissolve the dye.
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Try this - diassemble, rub back to wood then rub with neat alcohol, and re-polish with a friction polish, wax based.

Please let me know how you get on - I am intrigued - you can if you want send me the pen for a thorough analysis - I will return it unharmed! Email me at mik@mikpens.com

 

[pen-turners]

Looks like you've got a piece of Spalted Tamarind there. Possible from the blanks I sent you.

Chris

 

[atvrules1]

I was also going to say that it looks like tamarind, in fact very similar to some that I have turned.
Alan
Fredonia, Arizona