why can't people read????

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I have corian auctions on the "othernot to be named website" and I have 15 pen blanks that are clearly marked 1/2 x 1/2( 12mm) x 5 1/4 inches long... the person purchased these and said I left you neutral feedback as these aren't suitable for pen making. You need to sell them 5/8 or 3/4 for real people that turn pens....

Why can't Real people read before they click buy and why can't real people send someone a message saying i'm not happy with my purchase can I get a refund?

Another gentlemen was shop teacher and bought a larger bundle for his classes to learn turning. He cried rivers because his kids couldn't drill a hole in something that small... And instead of asking for a refund as I would have gladly donated a box for the kids to learn on( teachers don't make **** for pay) he was very rude and left another negative feedback ...

i'm selling these for .12 cents a piece for christ sakes you can use a bottom of the line slimline kit and for about 2.00 have a pen that took 30 minutes from start to scratch and sell for 10 to 15 dollars.... why do people always want something for free??????
 
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I've come to the conclusion that most people can read. The problem is that they can't think. Unfortunately, it's much easier to teach someone that is illiterate to read than to teach an idiot to think. Sorry you're having problems.
 
On the bright side when ever I see negative feedback I always look to see if its justified or just an idiot on the loose.
 
No one does the research either. They would have already known that Corian is made that thin and is REALLY tough to get any thicker. And I see where REAL turners could comfortably handle regular Corian. I can drill those pieces out centering my drill press by eye alone. And the shop teacher missed a GREAT opportunity to teach the kids how to make a drill press really sing.
 
I read and I vote and I use Nil Desperandum not obtained on Google. Hi I had to turn Catherine wheels to obtain any Corian in this country the Company Supplying dealerships here said you cant make crack free pens so when a dealership faded out I got some and made 40 or so, the dealer in place now was visiting head office and I showed my pens to the wife who said she would buy these and a heap more, my reply was tell your husband I can and do make crack free Corian pens and left.

My observation is white is a little thicker and 5/8 requires care but I use a drill press guess the centres have few probs drilling if any. Understand your frustration, no need for blasphemy to convey the message. Your price is very fair and statement of size as it is.
Personal note woman are really excited to receive white Corian Slimlines with Streamline Centre bands.

Regarding your pricing I am amazed the small amount outlayed gives any concern to prospective buyers and wish you success.

Kind regards Peter.
 
You know, I've made a purchase or two on ebay that I ddin't read everything. Got the product and was surprised that it was something other than what I thought. I then go back and read the ad again before contacting the seller. If its my fault for getting in a hurry, I NEVER blame the seller. My stupidity and carelessness is not his fault. And, I always leave postive feedback. But I think I am the exception.
 
I also have bought stuff that I didn't read thoroughly...the pictures were deceiving, and I didn't bother to read the measurements that closely - I read the description, however....Just didn't assume that people would sell knife kits for twelve dollars that are only two inches long, including the tang...

Didn't leave bad feedback, however, as that was my fault.

(Aside - Peter: I also took Latin in university as opposed to just googling - it's a bit rusty, but I can read yours! - despair not (or 'never despair') :smile:
 
Gary is spot on. I have done this several times. Seconds left to bid and not enough time to read the description properly. My error not the sellers. I don't think this is a case of "can't fix stupid" but more of a case of "can't fix lazy". Jason I am sorry to say that is part of the pitfalls of selling on fleabay. Two suggestions and I have not seen your ad. Increase the font size giving the size of the blanks and have a photo of the blank with a ruler. The ruler works kinda like the comics for those buyers who can't and won't read.
 
I'd like to leave you good feedback here. Great vendor with a fantastic product that makes into a great pen. Five stars. A pleasure to do business with.

Cut and paste to the other site.
 
That's life in the fast lane.

JAZNCARR said:
I have corian auctions on the "othernot to be named website" and I have 15 pen blanks that are clearly marked 1/2 x 1/2( 12mm) x 5 1/4 inches long... the person purchased these and said I left you neutral feedback as these aren't suitable for pen making. You need to sell them 5/8 or 3/4 for real people that turn pens....

Why can't Real people read before they click buy and why can't real people send someone a message saying i'm not happy with my purchase can I get a refund?

Another gentlemen was shop teacher and bought a larger bundle for his classes to learn turning. He cried rivers because his kids couldn't drill a hole in something that small... And instead of asking for a refund as I would have gladly donated a box for the kids to learn on( teachers don't make **** for pay) he was very rude and left another negative feedback ...

i'm selling these for .12 cents a piece for christ sakes you can use a bottom of the line slimline kit and for about 2.00 have a pen that took 30 minutes from start to scratch and sell for 10 to 15 dollars.... why do people always want something for free??????
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You'll find that wherever you sell. People don't read the listing. I put listings on here and say something like "not in the store" and half the time I'll get a pm from someone saying they can't find the item in my store. On eBay I even had folks tell me they were expecting a completed pen even though the listing clearly said "We are selling only the kits - the pictured pen is for illustration purposes and is not included in the sale"... Fortunately in all but one case they sent back the kits and I refunded - no negative feedback.

I would add words to the listing "Suitable for slimline pens" or something.
Or I would contact the buyer and tell them the corian "as is" is only suitable for slimlines and if they are making larger pens they'll have to glue them together to make bigger blanks (common practice for folks working with corian).
 
Even on IAP ads, I see people ask all the time "PM me with the total and where to send the payment". It's right in front of you in the ad! They list their PayPal account, shipping charge, and cost of the blanks. One word...LAZY. people want you to do all the work for them as well as to lazy to read the ad.:curse:
 
I also get when people ask for specific colors like the solid black or the swirly stuff and I tell them they are 1.00 a piece and they are like I'll never pay that much, when I'm buying smaple boards and ripping them down I m paying about .60 per piece and charging 1.00 .. people on here with the custom cast blanks are 30.00 to 40.00 per blank and no one scoffs at the price. You can't walk into a local wood craft and buy an acrylic blank for a dollar. I've even told people I'd cut and laminate the colors for them and of course its too expensive yada yada or it breaks or it cracks.....
 
MY wife sells plants on feebay. She has clearly stated at the top ..TOP of the auction that it is a pre-order and plants will be sent in march. She has had 3 people email her a few days later saying either they need them now or want a refund. These are 3 of many that CAN NOT READ>
 
Feebay is full of people that have little to no reading comprehension. Time to block him from ever bidding on any more of your auctions.
 
I was vindicated, after sending him a email which I think after the fact was a little harsh, he added a reply that I should have read the auction and should have left positive feedback =)
 
FWIW, I would like to 2nd Mr. Jackson's comments about the positive feedback. I bought a batch of 10 Corian blanks from you a couple of months ago, and I like them very much. I bought them to learn on. I have dealt with buyers on E*** that would not even negotiate an amiable solution to an issue; they just drop a negative bomb and move on. Like was mentioned earlier, if more folks would read more of a potential seller's feedback, they would realize that not all negative feedback is accurate. Anyway, don't stop selling your blanks; I for one appreciate your great deals.
 
Worse

I never worried much about feedback. I stopped giving it myself when eBay said sellers could no longer give neutral or negative. My position was there was no reason to give it. Good feedback for buyers didn't mark a good buyer anymore so why bother. Some buyers would ask me to give them good feedback and I'd do it for them but otherwise nada.

If the buyer didn't pay I didn't ship, if they paid they were just doing what they had to do to get the item.

Then there were buyers who gave low marks on the specific items. I got low shipping cost marks a couple of times from buyers who bought items with free shipping and items I shipped for less than the cost of the postage and there was no way to ship cheaper.

I did just get a heck of a deal there though and I gave the seller great marks. Not that he did anything special, he just shipped the item in a reasonable time but because he puts his items at auction and takes what is bid without whining. Next time I'll buy from his fixed prices to make sure he gets a fair price. I was willing to pay $5.00 more than he got but there were no other bidders. eBay used to let you bid a flat amount but they no longer do that on the auction items if the seller has a minimum bid and you bid 10 times that, he still gets the minimum if there are no other bidders.
 
I have seen on there where people were selling the box for xbox 360/ps3 and the bids were a couple hundred dollars. Imagine how upset they were when they got what they won!
 
I was channel surfing a few years ago, and stumbled on one of those reality court TV shows. There was someone on there being sued for putting up auctions selling pictures of valuable items. It was worded ambiguously enough that you had to read carefully to realize that you would only be getting a picture, not the actual item. The defendant did not understand that what they were doing was wrong, saying it was the victim's fault for not reading carefully enough.
 
Probably right

GoatRider said:
I was channel surfing a few years ago, and stumbled on one of those reality court TV shows. There was someone on there being sued for putting up auctions selling pictures of valuable items. It was worded ambiguously enough that you had to read carefully to realize that you would only be getting a picture, not the actual item. The defendant did not understand that what they were doing was wrong, saying it was the victim's fault for not reading carefully enough.[/quote]

They were probably right. We should not be buying without knowing what it is we are buying and we should read the descriptions -- I have contacted sellers with questions about the items they were selling many times when the description was not clear enough. I've often passed on making a bid when the seller's answer didn't match my expectations. I've also had a number of conversations with people who emailed or called asking about things I was selling. Sometimes it was not what the buyer thought because they had not read the listing.
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The buyer has the responsibility to read and ask if they do not understand the description. It is also the sellers responsibility to be just as diligent. Their description must be absolutely clear as to what the buyer is buying.

As for the reading thing? Most folks are wonderful readers of words, their ability to grasp what those words are telling them is often lacking.
 
Haynie said:
The buyer has the responsibility to read and ask if they do not understand the description. It is also the sellers responsibility to be just as diligent. Their description must be absolutely clear as to what the buyer is buying.

As for the reading thing? Most folks are wonderful readers of words, their ability to grasp what those words are telling them is often lacking.
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What do you mean Hanie? :biggrin:
 
to whom?

Haynie said:
The buyer has the responsibility to read and ask if they do not understand the description. It is also the sellers responsibility to be just as diligent. Their description must be absolutely clear as to what the buyer is buying.

As for the reading thing? Most folks are wonderful readers of words, their ability to grasp what those words are telling them is often lacking.
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Absolutely clear is relative. Does a seller need to make it clear to someone who reads at a 5th grade level? 8th grade? High school graduate? College graduate? Ph D in Rocket Science? What seems absolutely clear to you might not seem clear at all to me. While the seller has an obligation to not lie, cheat or steal - there is no obligation to try to anticipate the reading comprehension level of all of the potential buyers/bidders. What seems absolutely clear to one person often seems like meaningless mumbo jumbo to another.
 
I know you think you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant
 
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