Okay, so the idea that I'm getting is that PSI has them. Thank you, I never really bought anything from them before, but I am going to have to change that. Maybe someone should invent a laser that puts TN on a clip like Cav said, but as long as this compaqny is already doing that, I may as well use them. I'm just happy that the customer doesn't have a hard name to find initials for. I'm real lucky that this request did not come from Fred Unger. Thanks for all the same answers so I don't have to make any hard decisions. Mark, don't worry about it, we're all getting old.