jleiwig
Member
So I know I'll get flamed for this and that's ok...it's all that seems to be happening around here lately so in that sense it's old hat at this point for IAP.
Used to be a person could come in this place, post an idea or thought and get encouragement or at least helpful or positive constructive criticism. All ideas, thoughts, and beliefs were at least respected. Not so anymore.
Maybe it's a sign of the times in the world, but to be frank, this place is so different compared to where it was when I was last heavily involved in 2010 or so that it's not really any fun at all and that makes me sad. I also notice a lot of people I used to know and respect here are gone; it seems their last posts here are that they aren't going to be posting anymore. I know why now.
At first I couldn't understand it, but I now see why a lot of people would choose the different Facebook pen turning groups over posting here. There is over 8000 members in the two I'm part of on Facebook. Those people could make a great addition here, but at this point I probably would think twice about recommending they come here.
Very few people are helpful here anymore. Someone makes a sarcastic post about a magnet pen that devolves into 4 pages of arguing about magnets and pacemakers. Seriously? This is a pen making forum...if you come to a pen making forum for info on pacemakers and magnets then God help you. If you think your an internet expert on magnets and pacemakers...God help you too.
Speaking of internet experts, don't even get me started on the elitism of a few here. Not everyone wants, can afford, or needs the exact same tool you use. Beautiful pens have been made on everything from a pole lathe to a drill press. If someone asks about what you perceive as a specific lesser tool, if you don't have any direct experience with the tool in question, keep your opinions to yourself. When someone is looking at a $200 Harbor Freight lathe, suggesting an $800 Jet VS lathe really isn't helpful at all to the situation at hand.
Anyway....I guess this long winded diatribe is really just a way for me to say that I'm probably done posting here like many before me. That makes me very sad because this was like a second home to me before where I made actual friends that persist still to this day and I was hoping that to be the case again. Thanks for the memories IAP.
:bye:
Used to be a person could come in this place, post an idea or thought and get encouragement or at least helpful or positive constructive criticism. All ideas, thoughts, and beliefs were at least respected. Not so anymore.
Maybe it's a sign of the times in the world, but to be frank, this place is so different compared to where it was when I was last heavily involved in 2010 or so that it's not really any fun at all and that makes me sad. I also notice a lot of people I used to know and respect here are gone; it seems their last posts here are that they aren't going to be posting anymore. I know why now.
At first I couldn't understand it, but I now see why a lot of people would choose the different Facebook pen turning groups over posting here. There is over 8000 members in the two I'm part of on Facebook. Those people could make a great addition here, but at this point I probably would think twice about recommending they come here.
Very few people are helpful here anymore. Someone makes a sarcastic post about a magnet pen that devolves into 4 pages of arguing about magnets and pacemakers. Seriously? This is a pen making forum...if you come to a pen making forum for info on pacemakers and magnets then God help you. If you think your an internet expert on magnets and pacemakers...God help you too.
Speaking of internet experts, don't even get me started on the elitism of a few here. Not everyone wants, can afford, or needs the exact same tool you use. Beautiful pens have been made on everything from a pole lathe to a drill press. If someone asks about what you perceive as a specific lesser tool, if you don't have any direct experience with the tool in question, keep your opinions to yourself. When someone is looking at a $200 Harbor Freight lathe, suggesting an $800 Jet VS lathe really isn't helpful at all to the situation at hand.
Anyway....I guess this long winded diatribe is really just a way for me to say that I'm probably done posting here like many before me. That makes me very sad because this was like a second home to me before where I made actual friends that persist still to this day and I was hoping that to be the case again. Thanks for the memories IAP.
:bye: