Things that make ya go hu?
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Displaced Canadian
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One time I just about started a riot at the University of Washington chemical engineering building just by taking out my pocket knife. I had picked up some chinese takeout and was sitting in the student lounge waiting for my wife and one of the pieces of chicken was too large to eat neatly so I thought I would be dignified and cut it up. The knife only had a 2.5 " blade but when it clicked open people turned and looked, 2 girls who were on there way in turned around and hid behind the door. Part way through a whispered conversation about calling campus security about the creepy guy in the lounge my wife came in and said I should put the knife away. I'm a farm boy, I started carrying a knife when I was 8. To me I did nothing unusual, to the new generation stabbing the chicken with a plastic fork and chewing it down to size was the better thing to do. Different areas, different opinions.
Rick P
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I feel naked without my leatherman, before that my Swiss army knife. I use mine for food all the time especially out in the field but I have yet to have anyone react that strongly.
Although I did have someone in Washington state throw rocks at me for "torturing the fish" while I was fly fishing.........
Although I did have someone in Washington state throw rocks at me for "torturing the fish" while I was fly fishing.........
SteveG
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Displaced Canadian: Was it in Canada that you learned to stab dead chicken with a knife, or fork, or whatever??
I shrink back in horror. How barbaric!
I shrink back in horror. How barbaric!
leehljp
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I too grew up on a farm and had many relatives that didn't have money and ate off the land - farming and hunting. I posted something like this about 4 or 5 years ago on this forum in a similar thread - and one lady let me and a few others have it. She must have thought I was just trying to provoke her or her philosophy of life, but I was totally serious.
Some people just don't live in the real world! Its OK to eat raw fish in sushi (rice) rolls but use a knife or kill your own - Yikes they say! What is this world coming to?
When I was in college, I worked in a grocery store (predecessor to the Super Market :wink
. One bag boy commented on one lady's purchase - "That chicken is dead!" The woman refused to take it after that! The fellow got a strong reprimand in between the manager's laughing!
Some people just don't live in the real world! Its OK to eat raw fish in sushi (rice) rolls but use a knife or kill your own - Yikes they say! What is this world coming to?
When I was in college, I worked in a grocery store (predecessor to the Super Market :wink
. One bag boy commented on one lady's purchase - "That chicken is dead!" The woman refused to take it after that! The fellow got a strong reprimand in between the manager's laughing!
The Penguin
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ever carry a "speed open" or "spring assisted" knife?
you really see people jump back when you pull on of those out.
:biggrin:
Texatdurango
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Since moving to Show Low and taking up trout fishing, I have encountered quite a few "purists" who think I'm absolutely barbaric for KILLING then EATING the fish I just caught!
Those same people however, don't think a thing wrong with catching a fish as long as they use "barbless" hooks then half killing a fish PLAYING him in.....all in the name of SPORT and a good photo!
I'm guessing you ate your fish as well!
What's the world coming to. Something you and I agree on...who'd a thunk it. I also carry a pocket knife and now and then my 14 in 1 tool which also has a knife blade. I admit to being somewhat careful where I pull it out though.
I also shot more than a little game which also got eaten. I never did kill anything much for the sake of killing it - aside from a couple of raccoons that I know were rabid --- and if they'd have stayed in the woods instead of coming to my garage I wouldn't have bothered them.
I am old enough though that as a lad....
almost every boy in my elementary school past the age of 11 had and carried a boy scout pocket knife. We played a game called mumble-de-peg with them.
nearly all the boys and a couple of the girls had hunting licenses by age 12 and were allowed to hunt unsupervised at age 16. We were frequently seen walking through town carrying our guns because when we wanted to get from point A to point B we walked.
I was allowed by my parents, the school bus driver and the school to take my rifle to high school to go hunting after school with a friend.
I could carry a pistol as long as it wasn't concealed and walk down main street without raising an eyebrow. I used to use it for plinking with friends I had to get a permit during hunting season only because It would be under my hunting coat and hence - concealed. But, all I needed to get one was 50 cents and a hunting license.
Fred
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It all starts at home with the proper instruction of our children. I was brought up to respect ANY pistol or rifle as being loaded and to treat them as a deadly weapon from the age of four. I knew a knife was sharp and that if I used one wrong I had to answer to my father ... usually after my mother beat the stuffings out of me first as she ws the one I would go to to stop the bleeding.
I didn't need to go to school for this type of teaching ... ever. Like I said above it starts at home.
Oh, and don't ever blame a weapon, any type of weapon, for killing someone as it is always the fault of the individual using such weapon. I have NEVER seen a pistol or rifle come out of a closet, drawer, box and discharge itself ... have you?
I was often told that the Japanese were actually afraid to invade America as they knew that at the time we were all armed and capable of defending ourselves ... many of us still are thank God and many of us always will be!
I didn't need to go to school for this type of teaching ... ever. Like I said above it starts at home.
Oh, and don't ever blame a weapon, any type of weapon, for killing someone as it is always the fault of the individual using such weapon. I have NEVER seen a pistol or rifle come out of a closet, drawer, box and discharge itself ... have you?
I was often told that the Japanese were actually afraid to invade America as they knew that at the time we were all armed and capable of defending ourselves ... many of us still are thank God and many of us always will be!
edicehouse
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I saw a letter to the editor (been around net for a while), where someone said that hunters should be ashamed, they should get their meat from the grocery store where no animals were harmed.
Tom T
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You will think this is the craziest. When I was in high school. We had a rifle team. The rifle range was in the basement under the gym. We brought the guns in once a week and stored the rifles in one of the teachers class room closet. Oh and I got the rifle to school on the city bus and back home again. This was in Yonkers not up state.
Yes all us boy Scott's bought our knives to school.
I thought about turning my 9 year old grandson a bullet pen. But thought better of it because I new he would have to show his friends at school.
America is still a really good place to live.
Yes all us boy Scott's bought our knives to school.
I thought about turning my 9 year old grandson a bullet pen. But thought better of it because I new he would have to show his friends at school.
America is still a really good place to live.
Scott
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I have enjoyed this thread! My Wife is always giving me heck for pulling out my pocket knife in public. And yes, I often carry a Kershaw Leek with the Speedsafe assisted opening. I should learn.
Scott.
Scott.
tbroye
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I carried a Buck Knife for years and still have one in each vehicle. The CHP Officers Carried them to cut seat belts to free people in accidents that why mine are in the vehicles in the center console. If I carried on my belt like I used to I probably would be arrested. We used carry guns in our pickups but no more, just invites trouble.
tim self
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I have a SIL who will not eat anything that does not come out of the grocery store. My brother could never get her to even try venison. Mom won't eat anything that comes out of wate, regardless of where it comes from.
I have a very good friend who was an avid hunter who gave everything he killed away until he was about 40 - would not eat any game. He started eating it at our house one night when we had chili made with venison sausage and he loved it. But, he still gave all the squirrels, grouse and rabbits away.
leehljp
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tbroye
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Ah! vegetables, something to put tasty creatures around. Saw that on a Tshirt. Nice steak potato, nice green salad. Nice glass of wine lifes good.
cwolfs69
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never carry a knife myself. they could hurt someone. but you can bet that an explosive projectile delivering device (aka pistol) is on my person every time i leave my house.
Joe Burns
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Very interesting thread. Never did quite understand the tree-hugger mentality growing up. Most hunters are the most conservationist minded people I know.
I had one co-worker years ago gave me a lot of heck for going deer hunting. She was aghast and couldn't believe it when I explained to her how the chicken and beef she buys gets to the supermarket. My father owned a livestock auction in Corsicana Texas back in the 60s.
Joe
I had one co-worker years ago gave me a lot of heck for going deer hunting. She was aghast and couldn't believe it when I explained to her how the chicken and beef she buys gets to the supermarket. My father owned a livestock auction in Corsicana Texas back in the 60s.
Joe
Displaced Canadian
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Back in the day logging had a scorched earth mentality and there was a need for conservation groups. Now people have a black/white opinion on these matters. You are either a granola munching sandals and socks wearing tree hugging hippie, or a gun carrying SUV driving cold blooded killer who won't be happy until he has one of every animal hanging on their wall. However there is a large group in the middle who understand the need conservation and enjoy the resources responsibly. Teddy Rosovelt was a hunter and outdoorsman who created Yellowstone national park.
And remember, hug a logger, and you will never go back to trees.
And remember, hug a logger, and you will never go back to trees.
David M
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my wife would be so mad at me, I can here her now , is that the knife you clean your fingernails with....... yea but i cleaned it last week
Do you know what you'll have in 15 years if you clear cut a forest? You'll have a ---- forest. Most Americans are unaware that the East Coast, when Europeans first arrived, was a huge coniferous forest. It was almost totally denuded. And today, much of the land is dicidious forest that has grown up....mostly with no "help" from man. It is in the nature of things that when land is left alone it tends toward becoming a forest.
Texatdurango
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Only difference is that instead of having 40' to 60' trees, you'll have 3' to 5' trees!
Nine years ago the forest area just west of where I now live suffered a horrendous forest fire and today still looks pathetic even after replanting efforts with a twig here and a twig there sticking up.
Burning and clear cutting are not quite the same thing. It takes longer to recover from a really bad forest fire than from clear cutting. Clear cutting leaves most of the underbrush and root systems in place. Bad forest fires clear everything.Only difference is that instead of having 40' to 60' trees, you'll have 3' to 5' trees!
Nine years ago the forest area just west of where I now live suffered a horrendous forest fire and today still looks pathetic even after replanting efforts with a twig here and a twig there sticking up.
Texatdurango
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Gotcha! Didn't consider all the undergrowth still thriving after the trees were cut. But am still guessing short forests.Burning and clear cutting are not quite the same thing. It takes longer to recover from a really bad forest fire than from clear cutting. Clear cutting leaves most of the underbrush and root systems in place. Bad forest fires clear everything.Only difference is that instead of having 40' to 60' trees, you'll have 3' to 5' trees!
Nine years ago the forest area just west of where I now live suffered a horrendous forest fire and today still looks pathetic even after replanting efforts with a twig here and a twig there sticking up.
True enough, but for much wildlife new growth forest is better habitat than mature, so there is something to be said for it. We never had clear cutting but lumbering was an important industry in my home town. We loved to hunt in the areas that got lumbered off - many more deer. Deer being browsers do much better when the big trees are gone and the little ones are growing and they can reach the food.Gotcha! Didn't consider all the undergrowth still thriving after the trees were cut. But am still guessing short forests.Burning and clear cutting are not quite the same thing. It takes longer to recover from a really bad forest fire than from clear cutting. Clear cutting leaves most of the underbrush and root systems in place. Bad forest fires clear everything.Only difference is that instead of having 40' to 60' trees, you'll have 3' to 5' trees!
Nine years ago the forest area just west of where I now live suffered a horrendous forest fire and today still looks pathetic even after replanting efforts with a twig here and a twig there sticking up.
BKelley
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In grammar school every boy had a pocket knife. While in High School, I would take my rifle to school with me stop by the principals office and put it behind his door after school I went squirrel hunting. No problems, no irate parents, no police. At that time there were two boards of education, one in a county building consisting of several community members and the other in the principals desk. The one in the principals desk was the feared one. No smoking or chewing unless you had permission from home. Different times, different kids and they call what we got now "progress".
Ben
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