Parker refill problem

[Angelo49]

Hi,
I sold this Vertex pen a while ago. I get an email from the buyer saying that he is trying to replace the parker
style refill with a Parker Quinkflow broad tip refill
He says the diameter is larger than the pen barrel opening and it doesn't fit???
I've been searching for the past 2 hrs.to find the dia. of this refill but with no luck.
The standard diameter for the Parker refill is .236''
For the parker Gel / Rollerball the dia. is .248''
The length is 3.87''

The opening of the pen barrel dia. is .290''

Does anyone have the spec for this Parker Quinkflow broad tip refill?

Thanks
Angelo

 

[magpens]

Hope you don't mind if I add a note of humor. . . I did a Google search for "specifications of Parker Quinkflow refill"

This is what I found out at one of the links listed on this page of results from this search :-

specifications of Parker Quinkflow refill - Google Search

www.google.com

Results of search :-

The humorous part is that the refill size is not given, but what is given is the size of the the cardboard card on which the refill is sold .
At least, that's what I think is meant by these dimensions :-

Item dimensions L x W x H

5.4 x 0.8 x 19.4 centimeters

Translated to "more familiar" units :- 2.12" x 0.31" x 7.64" ( can't imagine those being the dimensions of the actual refill ) ..... LOL !

Sometimes I marvel at the usefulness of doing some Google searches !!!

And then there is this link, which gives the lengths of a multitude of refills, but no diameters ......... THANKS A LOT !!! .... LOL !

Refill Size Guide

Kindly note that refill pictures are for reference only and are not shown to scale. The main characteristics you are looking for are: (1) overall length of the pen refill, (2) the shape profile of the refill cartridge and (3) branding or logos on the cartridge. Parker Style Ballpoint Refills...

refillfinder.com

 

[Angelo49]

Hope you don't mind if I add a note of humor. . . I did a Google search for "specifications of Parker Quinkflow refill"

This is what I found out at one of the links listed on this page of results from this search :-

specifications of Parker Quinkflow refill - Google Search

www.google.com

Results of search :-

The humorous part is that the refill size is not given, but what is given is the size of the the cardboard card on which the refill is sold .
At least, that's what I think is meant by these dimensions :-

Item dimensions L x W x H

5.4 x 0.8 x 19.4 centimeters

Translated to "more familiar" units :- 2.12" x 0.31" x 7.64" ( can't imagine those being the dimensions of the actual refill ) ..... LOL !

Sometimes I marvel at the usefulness of doing some Google searches !!!

And then there is this link, which gives the lengths of a multitude of refills, but no diameters ......... THANKS A LOT !!! .... LOL !

Refill Size Guide

Kindly note that refill pictures are for reference only and are not shown to scale. The main characteristics you are looking for are: (1) overall length of the pen refill, (2) the shape profile of the refill cartridge and (3) branding or logos on the cartridge. Parker Style Ballpoint Refills...

refillfinder.com

''but what is given is the size of the the cardboard card on which the refill is sold''
EXACYLY!!!
I went through dozens of sites and all of them came up with the package size.
A few listed the refill length but never the dia.

 

[magpens]

Yeah !!! .

So, while I said those facts have an element of humor attached to them, that element is actually a sad reflection on modern life .......

....... we have unlimited access to "information" in one sense .......

....... but often that "information" is provided by "robots" of limited "intelligence" and is, therefore, of limited usefulness.

 

[Angelo49]

Yeah !!! .

So, while I said those facts have an element of humor attached to them, that element is actually a sad reflection on modern life .......

And......... I only found one site that listed the dia. for what to be seems like all parker refills.
I'm wondering if he didn't buy it on the street from the guy who sells the $12 Rollex LOL

https://unsharpen.com/pen-refill-guide/

 

[magpens]

@Angelo49

Thanks for sending ..... could be useful.

 

[KenB259]

Where is the common sense. You buy a refill, it doesn't fit. Common sense would tell you, you bought the wrong one. Do you really need to contact the pen maker to be told that?


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[magpens]

@KenB259

KEN !!!!! ..... I know you were not directing your post at me ..... the CUSTOMER is always right ..... you have to cater to the CUSTOMER !! ... LOL !

YES !!!!! ..... Common sense would tell YOU and ME and ANGELO that the customer can't do what he is trying to do ..... It isn't MEANT to fit !!!

But you cannot tell the customer that he is lacking in common sense, now can you !! ..... LOL !! ..... Angelo is only trying to help him out of the bind.

MAYBE a workaround can be found !! ..... I don't know why I got into this ..... but I can see the funny side ..... similar has happened to me !! LOL !

At first glance all refills look pretty much the same !!

 

[KenB259]

@KenB259

KEN !!!!! ..... I know you were not directing your post at me ..... the CUSTOMER is always right ..... you have to cater to the CUSTOMER !! ... LOL !

YES !!!!! ..... Common sense would tell YOU and ME and ANGELO that the customer can't do what he is trying to do ..... It isn't MEANT to fit !!!

But you cannot tell the customer that he is lacking in common sense, now can you !! ..... LOL !! ..... Angelo is only trying to help him out of the bind.

MAYBE a workaround can be found !! ..... I don't know why I got into this ..... but I can see the funny side ..... similar has happened to me !! LOL !

At first glance all refills look pretty much the same !!

LOL, I get cynical at times. This was one of those times !!


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[wolf creek knives]

@KenB259

KEN !!!!! ..... I know you were not directing your post at me ..... the CUSTOMER is always right ..... you have to cater to the CUSTOMER !! ... LOL !

YES !!!!! ..... Common sense would tell YOU and ME and ANGELO that the customer can't do what he is trying to do ..... It isn't MEANT to fit !!!

But you cannot tell the customer that he is lacking in common sense, now can you !! ..... LOL !! ..... Angelo is only trying to help him out of the bind.

MAYBE a workaround can be found !! ..... I don't know why I got into this ..... but I can see the funny side ..... similar has happened to me !! LOL !

At first glance all refills look pretty much the same !!

LOL, I get cynical at times. This was one of those times !!


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Just an FYI. I've found that import refills sometimes, usually, don't fit, like 100% of the time. So I tell all my pen customer to make sure that they don't use "import" refills. Seems to work for most applications and I've not gotten any negative responses. But I gotta say, after one crappy day today, I like the banter between the two of you. It makes life funny, which I need right now. Thanks!

 

[magpens]

@wolf creek knives

I'm with you, Tom !!! . . Life needs a bit of humor tossed in once in a while !!! . . . LOL !!

I've been dealing with a new doctor ..... he and his staff are really gung-ho on computer and software technology.
So all the appointment set up, etc., is done by email.
And "they" have his new-fangled software that gives robotic replies to everything !! ...... the patient has no idea where he's at ...... !!!!!

Talk about frustrating ..... when you just want to get to the root of the problem !! ..... all you get is a non-sensical "run-around"

And now I see that "something" doesn't like my word "new-fangled" above ...... spell-checkers ..... software robots ..... I'm going back to the farm !!!
It doesn't like "non-sensical" either ..... LOL !!! ..... but you and I understand both perfectly ..... don't we ?!! ..... LOL !! .... LOL !!!

 

[Angelo49]

Well it might be that he emailed the wrong person about his problem and I made the first mistake by
going along with him.
Seems like he purchased this wierd looking antique brass pen from another vendor.
He used the word hexagonal in his first email so I automatically thought it was mine. (MISTAKE!!)
What I sold him was a Gear Click Pen.
I have to convince him that it's not my pen / problem. LOL
Oh well, I'm waiting for his reply.

 

[magpens]

@Angelo49

Hilarious !!!

 

[Angelo49]

Oh!
And I still want to know the dia. of that oversized Parker refill LOL

 

[Carl Fisher]

I used to tell my customers to get the Easyflow 9000 or genuine Parker. Anything else was untested and unsupported.

 

[Carl Fisher]

Oh!
And I still want to know the dia. of that oversized Parker refill LOL

Only suggestion is to order one and measure it. I'm not being a smart a$$ but if it costs you a few dollars for some piece of mind then it's worth it.

 

[mark james]

Hi,
I sold this Vertex pen a while ago. I get an email from the buyer saying that he is trying to replace the parker
style refill with a Parker Quinkflow broad tip refill
He says the diameter is larger than the pen barrel opening and it doesn't fit???
I've been searching for the past 2 hrs.to find the dia. of this refill but with no luck.
The standard diameter for the Parker refill is .236''
For the parker Gel / Rollerball the dia. is .248''
The length is 3.87''View attachment 301372
The opening of the pen barrel dia. is .290''

Does anyone have the spec for this Parker Quinkflow broad tip refill?

View attachment 301373
Thanks
Angelo

Just to add to the discussion. I have two Parker refill packets bought from Staples probably 4-5 years ago... Both Quink Flow, but not 'broad tip refill. Mine, on the right (Black) is labeled - Ballpoint Refill Fine.

Dimensions:

Length - about 3.858"
OD (Barrel) - about .2280"

Not sure if this helps, but it got me out of my chair...

 

[1080Wayne]

One other thought Angelo . Might be worth clarifying with the `customer` that it is the refill body diameter that is too large for the barrel , not the nib diameter too large to come through the nib . I think the latter is a more common problem .

 

[Angelo49]

I did ask him all these questions yesterday, but never got back to me.
I do think he got me confused with another vendor.
Staples over here did not carry a broad tip refill.
Next I'll try Office Max or find one on line.
Angelo

 

[Todd in PA]

Not the exact same product, so I'm not sure if this is helpful or not.

 

[Todd in PA]

Btw, why are all my pictures sideways?

 

[wolf creek knives]

Btw, why are all my pictures sideways?

My photo's do the same thing. Before I down load mine I use the "rotate" option to move them around. I think it's on the 3 dot drop down at the top of your photo when you go to download it. I'm using a Chrome Book so there might be some difference. Good luck.

 

[Angelo49]

I never got an answer from the buyer. He stated that the refill didn't fit into the 'barrel'
I figured he meant the dia. of the body of the refill.
If he didn't answer me by now heprobably realized that it's not my pen
we're talking about.
Thanks for the photo Todd
Angelo

 

[Angelo49]

I just measured most of the pen tip openings that take a parker style refill.
Most are between .098'' to .103'' the Vertex measured .109''
Todd's pic shows 2.3mm = .0906'' If the pen he has can't accept these parkers maybe
it takes a Cross style refill???
We may never know LOL