Mr. Anonymous Game #13 @ 17/12/2014

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Hi everyone,

Now that the "deal" contest is over, is time to get another game on the road...!:wink:

What I have this time, is a combination of 3 packs of 4 blanks each, they are from 3 different wood species, 2 of them have been part of my wood list for some time and the third species, are now also part of the new updated timbers list, with 82 species in it (soon to be released).

The reason they are shown together is because, they are all related/family and while any of you have seen this updated list and therefore, the name of species #82, I will still ask you to identify the 3 wood species, as I will be providing some clues as to the #82 (one of those packs in the pic) name.

In fact, I have had this wood for some time, after I found out that, these trees were known with the same name as one other but scientists discovered in recent years that, this particular tree variety, was a subspecies of its own, from this particular Aussie natives tree species family.

I have referred to this particular species, many times here on IAP and a few times I made this exact explanation of its recent change of name.

So, the question is;

*- Name the 3 wood species shown on the below picture

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The prize will be a 500gr package (approx 8 blanks) from my "lolly-shop" stock, only you have to pay Paypal) is the shipping cost @ AU$14.00

Good luck...!:wink::biggrin:

Cheers
George
 
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49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
australian buloke wood
14- She/Bull-oak

Kinda a family tree, wouldn't you say?
Mom - Dad - Kiddo :bananen_smilies027: - :bananen_smilies026: - :bananen_smilies051:
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49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
Rock-Oak
14- She/Bull-oak


I saw that the Buloke is a scarce and protected wood so I dug a bit deeper and found the Rock-Oak which is much more common.
 
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I'm gonna try:
14- She/Bull-oak
49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
Black Sheoak (Casuarina littoralis)
 
Krash said:
49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
Rock-Oak
14- She/Bull-oak


I saw that the Buloke is a scarce and protected wood so I dug a bit deeper and found the Rock-Oak which is much more common.
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Hi Kelly,

Do you mind to share with me the link/address of the search results you done on the Rock-Oak, please...!

Humm, you are certainly "something else", mate.:smile:

Cheers
George
 
robutacion said:
Krash said:
49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
Rock-Oak
14- She/Bull-oak


I saw that the Buloke is a scarce and protected wood so I dug a bit deeper and found the Rock-Oak which is much more common.
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Hi Kelly,

Do you mind to share with me the link/address of the search results you done on the Rock-Oak, please...!

Humm, you are certainly "something else", mate.:smile:

Cheers
George
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Here's a couple ...

http://www.penturners.org/forum/f45/square-wooden-platter-113699/

http://www.penturners.org/forum/f30/wood-hardness-simple-tests-pic-heavy-125731/index2.html
 
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So George, do these blanks need to be named in correct order or just all three named, like it says in the initial post;

*- Name the 3 wood species shown on the below picture
 
Sorry folks, I have been out almost all day, it was specialist appointment day for Merissa, and she had to do a bunch of tests after that, we just got home...!

OK, lets see...!

Kelly - Yes, you are correct, I only asked for the species names and not the matching of each pack with its correct species so, you are off the hook however, you will get "extra points" if you can match them...!:wink:

JustmeinMS - Well, you obviously didn't read the thread properly, you missed that I said that, the 3 wood species are all related...!:eek::wink:

Oh 1080Wayne my friend, the answer to your question is a simple one, on my new web-store, I'm allowed to use any size pics, in this case, I use what the camera produces which is, 4000x3000 while on IAP, the max. size allowed is 800x600.

By the way, your last guess isn't correct, either...!:redface::smile:

Cheers
George
 
Krash said:
robutacion said:
Krash said:
49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
Rock-Oak
14- She/Bull-oak


I saw that the Buloke is a scarce and protected wood so I dug a bit deeper and found the Rock-Oak which is much more common.
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Hi Kelly,

Do you mind to share with me the link/address of the search results you done on the Rock-Oak, please...!

Humm, you are certainly "something else", mate.:smile:

Cheers
George
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Here's a couple ...

http://www.penturners.org/forum/f45/square-wooden-platter-113699/

http://www.penturners.org/forum/f30/wood-hardness-simple-tests-pic-heavy-125731/index2.html
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Well, well...! very nicelly spotted, you obviously take attention to what I say and or have a very good memory, in either case, you are correct.

When you mentioned your search, and the material you found on the Rock-Oak, I thought that you were referring to a Google search and that you had found some additional information about this species recent discoveries that, I have a hard time finding any Government issued data, related to this wood. That was the reason why I asked you to identify the source, was a good chance that you got the information from my written material but, I was not sure...!

Cheers
George
 
robutacion said:
Krash said:
robutacion said:
Krash said:
49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
Rock-Oak
14- She/Bull-oak


I saw that the Buloke is a scarce and protected wood so I dug a bit deeper and found the Rock-Oak which is much more common.
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Hi Kelly,

Do you mind to share with me the link/address of the search results you done on the Rock-Oak, please...!

Humm, you are certainly "something else", mate.:smile:

Cheers
George
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Here's a couple ...

http://www.penturners.org/forum/f45/square-wooden-platter-113699/

http://www.penturners.org/forum/f30/wood-hardness-simple-tests-pic-heavy-125731/index2.html
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Well, well...! very nicelly spotted, you obviously take attention to what I say and or have a very good memory, in either case, you are correct.

When you mentioned your search, and the material you found on the Rock-Oak, I thought that you were referring to a Google search and that you had found some additional information about this species recent discoveries that, I have a hard time finding any Government issued data, related to this wood. That was the reason why I asked you to identify the source, was a good chance that you got the information from my written material but, I was not sure...!

Cheers
George
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I found these ...

Forest Products Commission - developing the sustainable use of the States plantation and native forest resources in Western Australia

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/western-australian-rock-oak.72024/

And a book .... Forest Trees of Australia
https://books.google.com/books?id=q2v3kb9tFsYC&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=%22Rock+Oak%22+Australia&source=bl&ots=N5jsB3e9Qx&sig=28A22bDVz_3mD4UgG5bLPPT30BE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=quuSVJfHIsbxoATVx4GwBg&ved=0CDcQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%22Rock%20Oak%22%20Australia&f=false
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So, when you say I am correct, do you mean that I was the first to identify the 3 species correctly?
I hope so cause when I told my wife I wanted blanks for Christmas, I was hoping she didn't think I was asking for nothing!

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I believe Kelly was the first to correctly name all 3 species, but that is for George to say for sure. In fact, he beat me to the Rock Oak guess by just a hair, so I went a slightly different route with my guess.

Even though George did not ask for the species names in the order shown, here is what I think:

On the Left -- #49 from George's timber list, described as Australian Casuarina, but is actually the Rock Sheoak

In the Middle -- the fairly newly identified Australian Casuarina as a separate species

On the Right -- #14 She/Bull Oak


By the way, the species should properly be called Rock Sheoak as it is Allocasuarina huegeliana to distinguish it from Quercus Muehlenbergii which is the common Rock Oak found in most of the eastern half of the USA.

Edgar
 
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I thought Quercus Muehlenbergii was a famous bassoon player. Doesn't he have a new seasonal album out called "I'll Bassoon for Christmas"? :wink:

"Bassoons ring, are ya listening ...."

"Bassoon Bells, bassoon bells. Bassoons all the way ..."

"Bells on Bassoons ring, making spirits bright" :biggrin:
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By the way, impressive list of Latin vomit Ed!
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edohmann said:
I believe Kelly was the first to correctly name all 3 species, but that is for George to say for sure. In fact, he beat me to the Rock Oak guess by just a hair, so I went a slightly different route with my guess.

Even though George did not ask for the species names in the order shown, here is what I think:

On the Left -- #49 from George's timber list, described as Australian Casuarina, but is actually the Rock Sheoak

In the Middle -- the fairly newly identified Australian Casuarina as a separate species

On the Right -- #14 She/Bull Oak


By the way, the species should properly be called Rock Sheoak as it is Allocasuarina huegeliana to distinguish it from Quercus Muehlenbergii which is the common Rock Oak found in most of the eastern half of the USA.

Edgar
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Because of George's discussion on his website for casuarina saying what he really had was Rock-Oak, I was a bit confused what to guess. If #49 is really Rock-Oak, is he going to change the name of #49 to Rock-Oak and make his new #82 Casuarina? No clue. If so, maybe the real list will be

49- Rock-Oak
82 - Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
14 - She/Bull-oak

Only a currently sleeping George knows the correct answer!
(local time in Adelaide is 4:30 AM TOMORROW):glasses-cool:
 
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Krash said:
I thought Quercus Muehlenbergii was a famous bassoon player. Doesn't he have a new seasonal album out called "I'll Bassoon for Christmas"? :wink: .
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I'll be looking for that album :smile:


Krash said:
Impressive list of Latin vomit Ed!

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"aut viam inveiam aut faciam" - Hannibal

(I will either find a way or make one)

I'm not sure how that applies here, I just like that saying. :biggrin:
 
And the winner is...???

Hi peoples,

Congratulations Kelly (krash), you are infact the winner of this game, congrats...!

You named the 3 wood species correctly but the name matching is not correct but that doesn't count as that was never requested as part of the answer.

I understand perfectly why you, Edgar and possibly many others, are a little confused about what is what, that was the true intent of selecting this issue as the main question of this game.

What really did happen was slightly different than what has been mentioned but I explain.

Australia Casuarina #49 on my "timbers list", has been part of that list for a long time however, not long after I got some Casuarina trees, I got some of these trees that were also known as Casuarinas but that had a slight different colour and the tree looked slightly different than the normal Casuarinas but that happens often among many other tree species so, I started calling it Casuarina, I would mix blanks from the 2 varieties and sell them as #49 Casuarina. This is what you see in the store listing that, was supposed be be changed a couple of weeks ago when, I made the decision to separate the 2 species, after the Authorities found that they were indeed 2 tree species.

Was never much web info about this issue, not that I could find however, I was told all this but a local tree nursery specialist.

For some time now, I have sold and made some blanks/pieces that I identified as Rock-Oak but, I didn't think that would be necessary to give it its own number in my list so, I never done much about it until recently, when I decided that was time to do the right thing and separate them, after all, there has been legal work done on its separation from the Casuarina.

Just adding another number on the list with the name Rock-Oak was the easiest part but, I felt that, was also time to share and explain to all of you, how this come about. By doing so, I knew that some of you would be interested in know a little bit more about it and do your own searching/reading, that would not only validate what I have been saying but also, explain/show the differences in between the 3 local species that I work with and part of this tree family.

There is also the fact that, the #49 packs, mixed as they were, have sold considerably well and until now, people with get a pack of 4 blanks with 2 of each species (2 darker, 2 lighter colours) however, the existent packs have been pulled appart and the blanks/species separated. I'm going to let the pics on the listing from my store that, Kelly gave us so that, you can see what I'm talking about, I will change them after that...!

This is only a recent situation so, I will have it sorted in no time...!

So, and contrary to what you folks though, the n#14 - She/Bull-Oak is the oldest of the 3, the #49 - Australian Casuarina was the second and the 3th was the Rock-Oak that has been hiding for about 3 to 4 years...!

As for the colours, the #14 She/Bull- Oak is the darkest one (dark red), the #49 Casuarina is the lightest colour (dark yellow, golden) and the #82 is the more pinkish one and the colour between the other 2...!

So, and regardless you any of you will buy any of these woods from me, I felt necessary to "expand" the Game's correct answer and allow all of you to know and understand what these wood species are about, and be able to recognize them, that is most important, in my view...!


OK so, lets wrap this up...!

Thank you to all participants and visitors to this game.

Congratulations Kelly for your win and thank you also for providing those web links that I will have a good look, later on...!

You can now proceed with the Paypal transfer for the AU$14.00 of shipping...!

Thank you :wink::biggrin:

Cheers
George
 
Congrats Kelly! Well done.

and thanks again to George & Mr. A for this fun & informative contest. I'm looking forward to the next one. I'm going to brush up on my Hills Weeping Fig so I'll be ready for it when it's time comes. :wink:
 
robutacion said:
Hi peoples,

Congratulations Kelly (krash), you are infact the winner of this game, congrats...!

Cheers
George
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Thank you George!

I immediately knew the she/bull oak since you sent me some so putting all three together was quick! Sounds like I needed that quickness since Ed "sassafras" Dohmann was hot on my heels! I can't wait to see what goodies you pack my way this time. :biggrin:
 
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Krash said:
49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
Rock-Oak
14- She/Bull-oak
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robutacion said:
You named the 3 wood species correctly but the name matching is not correct but that doesn't count as that was never requested as part of the answer.

As for the colours, the #14 She/Bull- Oak is the darkest one (dark red), the #49 Casuarina is the lightest colour (dark yellow, golden) and the #82 is the more pinkish one and the colour between the other 2...!

Cheers
George
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So, did I get them in the correct order also? :rolleyes:

Do I get the "extra points"? :smile:

Do I, do I, do I? :bananen_smilies051:
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Krash said:
Thank you George!

I immediately knew the she/bull oak since you sent me some so putting all three together was quick! Sounds like I needed that quickness since Ed "sassafras" Dohmann was hot on my heels! I can't wait to see what goodies you pack my way this time. :biggrin:
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Yup - you beat me by about 5 minutes. I had pretty well figured it out & went back to the thread to make my entry and saw that you had already made the same guess. I was 99.9% sure that was the right answer, but rather than just repeat it, I looked around a bit for something that "might" be a possibility just in case the Rock Oak was wrong. Didn't have much hope for it though.

I have no complaints though - after all, I just had that gimmie a couple of games back. :smile::smile:


How do you get a job as a bassoonist in an orchestra?











Own a bassoon.
 
Krash said:
Ok George, the payment is on its way to your side of the world!
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Kelly,

The other side of the world has received your Paypal, thank you...!

There is no harm in using these games to increase one's knowledge and make you all, a little more familiar with all my woods and some of its stories...!

I understand that, you were getting frustrated for not seeing me award the prize to you, as you knew that you had the correct answer, I understood that but, I was giving some extra time and see if someone else would also give the correct answer as I was willing to award 2 people but, that didn't happen and I thought was time to get it closed.

I can't accept Edgar's last answer as I already had hinted that kelly had the correct answer, I needed that answer on post #5 or just after, sorry mate...!

Your parcel is only going to be posted on Monday the 22/12/14, today is Friday and all parcels have been posted, no postage on Saturdays, here..!

Cheers
George
 
Not a problem George.
Actually, one reason that I did not give the Rock Oak answer any sooner was to see if someone else might give the same answer in case you were willing to award two prizes, which I know that you sometimes do. However no one did by the time you hinted that Kelly had the right answer, so I decided to go ahead and make a stab at the order of the blanks just for fun.
 
edohmann said:
Krash said:
Thank you George!

I immediately knew the she/bull oak since you sent me some so putting all three together was quick! Sounds like I needed that quickness since Ed "sassafras" Dohmann was hot on my heels! I can't wait to see what goodies you pack my way this time. :biggrin:
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Yup - you beat me by about 5 minutes. I had pretty well figured it out & went back to the thread to make my entry and saw that you had already made the same guess. I was 99.9% sure that was the right answer, but rather than just repeat it, I looked around a bit for something that "might" be a possibility just in case the Rock Oak was wrong. Didn't have much hope for it though.

I have no complaints though - after all, I just had that gimmie a couple of games back. :smile::smile:


How do you get a job as a bassoonist in an orchestra?
Own a bassoon.
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Big mistake mate, I have indicated many times that, you have a lot more chances to be awarded, repeating the answer of someone elses, if you are sure, that is the correct answer. You won't get it every time as when I make a decision that will be only one prize, for whatever the reason, having the second correct answer, doesn't make any difference in those games however, your odds are better, if you say/write it...!:wink::biggrin:

I know you like to play and have fun mate however, to those following these games, I need to make sure everyone is clear on what its going on, and know what the expect...!

Having a little fun in the process, is like the "icing on the cake"...!:wink::biggrin:

Cheers
George
 
Krash said:
Krash said:
49- Australian Casuarina tree (She Oaks family)
Rock-Oak
14- She/Bull-oak
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robutacion said:
You named the 3 wood species correctly but the name matching is not correct but that doesn't count as that was never requested as part of the answer.

As for the colours, the #14 She/Bull- Oak is the darkest one (dark red), the #49 Casuarina is the lightest colour (dark yellow, golden) and the #82 is the more pinkish one and the colour between the other 2...!

Cheers
George
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So, did I get them in the correct order also? :rolleyes:

Do I get the "extra points"? :smile:

Do I, do I, do I? :bananen_smilies051:
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Hahahahhah mate, yes, you get the extra points/blanks...!

I consider that, the "normal" alphabetical and numerical order runs clockwise, there is from left to right so, as you posted it, I consider it the right order...!

Happy now...!:eek::biggrin:

Cheers
George
 
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robutacion said:
I understand that, you were getting frustrated for not seeing me award the prize to you, as you knew that you had the correct answer, I understood that but, I was giving some extra time and see if someone else would also give the correct answer as I was willing to award 2 people but, that didn't happen and I thought was time to get it closed.
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Nah, not frustrated. I was pretty sure I had the correct answer but if I didn't and someone else used part of my answer to get the correct answer, that was fine with me. I put in my best guess and was fine just waiting to see if it was good enough. It's all just fun anyway and I would love for others to receive some of your fine blanks also.

Thanks George for the fun!
 
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