no reason why you shouldn't have been able to...problem must be a cookie on your end or something like that, if I had to guess.
Missing the old classifieds...
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no reason why you shouldn't have been able to...problem must be a cookie on your end or something like that, if I had to guess.
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Greg O'Sherwood
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:coffee:
TellicoTurning
Member
Justin,
Have to agree with you... I do this site for the pen turning, camaraderie, etc... rarely ever go to the classifieds or most of the other forums... I like the Marketing thread, Other things we make and the Casual conversation... all other threads are gravy, but I'm watching my weight so stay away from most of the gravy anyway...:biggrin::biggrin:
gimpy
Member
I'm going to say one thing, It isn't very pleasant to get "scammed" which I have on this site........I continue to visit the site to learn and share knowledge, but will never make another purchase from this site
Timebandit
Member
Have you spoken to management about this. We dont want these kind of people around here. If you were taken advantage of, please speak to one of the management.
Justin
That's great for you, but a lot of folks also come to the site to purchase special blanks and the like that are not available to them elsewhere. Here they can see photos of the actual blanks they'll be getting rather than a pic of a generic blank representing a type of wood. Those are the folks who are going to feel the loss.
Texatdurango
Member
Since you've said your one thing, I want to say my one thing (or a couple things).
First, the "site" didn't do a thing to you! The site is a forum comprised of a few hundred active members, some of which choose to sell things to other members but the "site" doesn't sell things or sponsor anyone that I'm aware of to sell anything.
There are several folks here selling things that we need and use everyday and I'm glad they are here but in recent years, more and more people found this forum and joined with only one purpose in mind.... to make money. I suspect that some members don't even own a lathe or have ever turned a single pen.
The owner of this forum and his team of moderators can only police what they know about so if you have been "scammed", don't blame the forum, blame the individual who did it to you.
There is a forum called "Vendor cheers and jeers" and I would think that if it was a member vendor here who "scammed" you, the cheers and jeers forum would be the perfect place to post a factual report about the incident so others won't fall prey to the same person. Note I said factual, all too often we see rants about perceived slow shipping or some other nonsense and bash innocent vendors.
IPD_Mr
Member
I am still not sure which way I like the best. For the most part the forum has a lot more meat to it which is a good thing. Sometimes I miss seeing things for sale, but I think the one thing that it has stifled is the small guy that has created a new product. Most likely unless they wants to become a re-seller they are not going to bother and we might miss out on some really neat and new things. This use to be a great place to really gauge interest to see if a persons idea or product might be worth pursuing. A good example was on a razor handle a while back that GTMustang was looking into. Being able to openly discuss this he was able to determine the investment was not worth the risk. So yes to some degree I do miss it but I also like seeing an increase in the focus on technique and design in the meat of the forum.
I personally received several invitations to join this organization from some of my eBay customers. I was selling component sets.
I joined because they invited me. They invited me because they thought I was a good vendor.
Maybe they broke the rule on who to invite because they didn't know (at least some of them didn't) if I was a turner or not. All they knew was that I sold at reasonable prices and stood behind what I sold.
I am here primarily as a seller, rather than as a turner (I do turn a little). I'm not here just to make money, if I was I'd have quit and got a day job a long time ago.
Just curious... why did you bump a 2+ month old thread with a coffee cup icon?
Russianwolf
Member
IF this is a "pen-turning" site, why is there a forum on casting? casting doesn't have anything to do with pen turning. it could be its own forum entirely (in fact there are forums dedicated to casting). Its only tangentially related because we want it to be. Many who have gone into casting, do little else anymore from what I've seen. It becomes its own passion and in some cases business.
Since its not specifically pen-turning, should that forum also be restricted? A maximum posts per month?
OR, do we want to see the cool things they come up with? as soon as they happen? Like, Right Now? BRUCE, TAKE A PICTURE AND POST IT, WE NEED OUR FIX. :tongue:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but some aspects of the classifieds are missed by me also. There was an excitement that it brought, not knowing what was going to be here when you signed in. Or seeing that "I have something good that I'm going to post at 5PM" warning some gave due to the popularity of their wares (Nolan's blanks were like that often). Some of that waned as others have mentioned because some of the "best" simply can't do it any longer for their own reasons. But it and they are still missed.
The site didn't become boring, but as one gains knowledge and skills the basics become less appealing. That happens in everything. Do you excitedly go find people asking questions about what you learned your first weeks on the job? You answer those questions when they are brought to you, but it isn't exciting any more. Now what excites you is the next challenge.
But the site did lose one of the things that brought some extra excitement. Was it the rules, or something else that caused it to leave? who's to say.
Since its not specifically pen-turning, should that forum also be restricted? A maximum posts per month?
OR, do we want to see the cool things they come up with? as soon as they happen? Like, Right Now? BRUCE, TAKE A PICTURE AND POST IT, WE NEED OUR FIX. :tongue:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but some aspects of the classifieds are missed by me also. There was an excitement that it brought, not knowing what was going to be here when you signed in. Or seeing that "I have something good that I'm going to post at 5PM" warning some gave due to the popularity of their wares (Nolan's blanks were like that often). Some of that waned as others have mentioned because some of the "best" simply can't do it any longer for their own reasons. But it and they are still missed.
The site didn't become boring, but as one gains knowledge and skills the basics become less appealing. That happens in everything. Do you excitedly go find people asking questions about what you learned your first weeks on the job? You answer those questions when they are brought to you, but it isn't exciting any more. Now what excites you is the next challenge.
But the site did lose one of the things that brought some extra excitement. Was it the rules, or something else that caused it to leave? who's to say.
Russianwolf
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Texatdurango
Member
Smitty, Don't get excited, I didn't have you in mind when I typed my post, no need in getting defensive and explaining yourself. I was just stating a fact to illustrate that there are good folks here as well as some not so good and the number of vendors here compared to a few years ago has grown significantly. The point of my post was to show that the "site" wasn't responsible for "scamming" gimpy, a vendor was!
I didn't know you sold on ebay, I didn't know you weren't a pen turner and to be honest, I never paid much attention to when you showed up because you came along after my interest in assembling kits had died down so I never really looked to see what you sold.
I didn't know you sold on ebay, I didn't know you weren't a pen turner and to be honest, I never paid much attention to when you showed up because you came along after my interest in assembling kits had died down so I never really looked to see what you sold.
louisbry
Member
You need to take a coffee break after reading all this!
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gimpy
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gimpy
Member
I'm not going to respond after this, I did not say the site scammed me I said I got scammed on the site, meaning someone who was selling items did not keep up the end of the sale.......I love IAP, and I mearly stated that I will not purchase from people from this site, except for those who did me GOOD, they know who they are.....The Admin team did a great job with this issue and I applaid them for that.............Thank you, sorry I broght up a sore subject.......The End
Oh, I didn't take it personally [hope it didn't seem like I did] and I am not at all excited or upset - I just wanted to point out that some of us are here only because our selling elsewhere prompted someone (in my case it was about half a dozen folks) to invite us to join. If I weren't a seller I might never have heard of IAP.
I am a pen turner, primarily wood. - I just don't turn a lot because of lung issues breathing sawdust.
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Gin N' Tonic
Member
Gimpy,
This is a copy of your original post:
Originally Posted by gimpy
I'm going to say one thing, It isn't very pleasant to get "scammed" which I have on this site........I continue to visit the site to learn and share knowledge, but will never make another purchase from this site.
Nowhere did you mention that you were scammed by a vendor, instead you only say "this site" which to me imply's that you were pointing the finger at the admin. Unfortunately what you wrote and what you meant could be misinterpreted and that's what I think George was pointing out.
This is a copy of your original post:
Originally Posted by gimpy
I'm going to say one thing, It isn't very pleasant to get "scammed" which I have on this site........I continue to visit the site to learn and share knowledge, but will never make another purchase from this site.
Nowhere did you mention that you were scammed by a vendor, instead you only say "this site" which to me imply's that you were pointing the finger at the admin. Unfortunately what you wrote and what you meant could be misinterpreted and that's what I think George was pointing out.
edicehouse
Member
It was a slow day at work, and I saw the title of this and I knew it would pass some time.
My 2 cents:
I don't think they fee's were put to keep people from posting things for sale, per say. It was done so 1 person would not have 5 adds with 10 blanks each. But have 1 add with 50 blanks. It is a cost to run an add, and that should be reflected in your product. Some of the people on here that sell items are so much lower than anyplace else, if they charged an extra 10 cents per pen kit, I don't think anyone would really notice (to cover the charges).
My 2 cents:
I don't think they fee's were put to keep people from posting things for sale, per say. It was done so 1 person would not have 5 adds with 10 blanks each. But have 1 add with 50 blanks. It is a cost to run an add, and that should be reflected in your product. Some of the people on here that sell items are so much lower than anyplace else, if they charged an extra 10 cents per pen kit, I don't think anyone would really notice (to cover the charges).
Don't kid yourself, they'd notice.
Haynie
Member
And complain
I didn't say that:biggrin:
Greg O'Sherwood
Member
Yup, I was hoping some sort of middle ground would have been found by now. Unfortunately not. It was mentioned earlier in the thread that you (Jeff) were looking into options and that some reconciliation was possible between the old way and this.
I just dont understand how having restrictions on vendors makes this place better. THose who don't like it don't have to visit the vendor sections, do they?
Never mind. I'll stop. I know all this was argued over and over again, and it is a private site, so management rules.
I'll keep checking in occasionally.
Thanks for putting up with the inquiries.
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