Thank you sir i tried several venues that could only offer the 10 packs of tubes for like 12.95 each one , including exotic. i found that majestic jr uses one of each also and found a set of 2 each replacement tubes on woodturningz . seems no one wants to help a little bit, it just tells me where i ll spend my $ later. again thank you for the response sir have a good day. ScottMessage me if Ed doesn't have what you need.