??? Jet 1220 lathe???

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OK it arrived today. I barely had time to get it out of the box and set it up to look it over before I had to go to work. Well got home and gave it an inspection and noticed what I think is a problem and hope others can help or tell me it is not a problem. I put 2 spurs in the drive and tailstock and lined up the points. I noticed that they are not quite perfect. They are off a tad left to right. Have no way to measure this. But the 1014 Jet I got were dead on perfect and still are to this day.

My question or questions are is this something that can be corrected???? Is there a tolerance that is acceptable??? If this can be corrected can I do it and how is it done???? Do I have to notify Jet. ???? It is a VS model so I ran it through some speeds but not all yet. I will do this tommorrow. Is there a way to measure the difference between points ??? Is there any other major things to look for before putting a load on it. I cleaned all the gunk off the ways and all. Thanks all. I knew this would happen because this is what my luck is all about through my lifetime.
 
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Might be a, problem, might not.

Might be correctable, might not.

Going to depend upon how far off the points are among other things.

What is your eyeball estimate of how far off the points are.

You might want to chat with the folks at JET technical services and see what they have to say. 1-800-274-6846
 
Well I have to get ready to head out to work but did some more checking and testing and I will be calling the Jet rep tomorrow. I am not happy with what I feel is a hop in the motor or pulley system. I feel it on the slower speeds. I have bolted the lathe down on a solid heavy table. I cleaned and leveled everything. The only thing I am basing this on right now is I own a Jet 1014VS and it was and still is perfect out of the box with no vibration and definetly spot on point to point alignment. I am not happy at this time about this lathe.
 
new out of the box. I would call Jet after I made sure I was postive that there was a mis-alignment and not just my eyes playing tricks on me.
 
OK called Jet and he told me to check things I already checked so he finally said to take to a repair shop. I dropped it off and while I was there I went into the showroom and tested a 1220 lathe that was on the floor and it ran smoothe so I know now something is wrong with mine for sure. Will se what he comes up with but I am betting it is the bearings. Will report back when I get it back. Thanks all for the help
 
The guy said probably end of the week but not holding my breathe. I will call wed or thurs to see where he is at. Do not want to pressure him just yet.
 
Well now I remember why I hate service centers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Went to the service center to check on my lathe and low and behold nothing done. Seems that they have only one person who works on tools and he also does house calls and today he was on a house call. Did not sit well so went to talk to the head guy and had a few words. His answer was he will take a look at it on Saturday. Now Saturday is their busiest day of the week so he won't have time. If this wasn't a brand new lathe right out of the box I would have looked at this myself and worked it out. But being under warrenty I thought I would give them a try. Not looking good.
 
Is this service center actually associated with a JET dealer or are they just a contract repair service?

From the dates on your posts, it appears it was less than week from the time you delivered the lathe for service until the day you checked on it. Did they promise a servicing time-frame when you took the lathe in?

I don't know about others; but I never expect a service center to process a repair in less than two weeks. Wish that weren't so and don't really understand why it has to be that way.......but that just seems to the the way it is.:mad:

And that being the case, I never actually visit a shop to see how the repair is progressing...unless the place is on my way home from work or in some other very convenient location. In most cases a phone call is so much more efficient.

You might want to check with the JET web site customer service again and find out what they consider a reasonable time-frame to be for servicing your lathe.
 
Do I dare start something here? Oh, well. Comparing experiences is good information for our members.
The one time I needed repair service on a new machine was with my Grizzly planer. When I backed up to the loading door at the store, a big guy came out with a smile, took the machine and directed me to the waiting room with free coffee, sofas and a big screen TV. He said he would page me when the repair was done. I choose to browse and drool over the many tools on display instead, and even made some small purchases. Sure enough, about twenty minutes later, "Smiley" called me, put the tool back in the car, wished me well and I was off. IMHO, that is what service should be and comparable to what I gave when I owned my stores.
I'm in the thinking "maybe I will" stage of possibly buying a mini lathe to use when my full sized is tied up with a big project. From this thread, I am dissuaded from even considering a Jet. Dunno, makes sense though to, at least, compare and consider as I know folks, here and in person, who are happy with theirs.
 
First off let me say Frank please do not get disuaded by my experience. Jet is a great lathe and I would not hesitate to buy another. I have the Jet 1014 and as I mentioned it was and still is perfect right out of the box. Now I stepped up to the 1220 for a few reasons that i won't go into but from readsing the many possitive reviews on many sites I feel this was a right choice. It just happened I was unfortunate to get one that in my opinion and the jury is still out on this that is not quite right. There has been nothing proven that what I see is actually a problem so I withhold judgement just yet.

Randy

This place is just an authorized service place that deals with Jet and many other manufacturers. I got 2 names from the guy from jet and the first one does not do warrenty work for Jet any more and sounded like thwey had problems with Jet. This was the second and is the only one left close to me. They sell tools as their main income and repair them as a side thing. Are they reliable I do not know because I never bring tools in for repair. I usually fix them myself but this was just out of the box so did not want to waive any warrenties. As for going there it is not far from my house and to look someone in the eye to me is more meaningful than talking on a phone and he can tell you anything. As far as time thing goes I was told by the end of the week I would have an answer wheather they need to get parts from jet or if there was a problem after all. I will give them the time but will not be dragged on. I can not stand that. I wish I was as lucky as Frank but that is not the case. Will see what happens.
 
Nothing to start, you're generalizing from individual experiences. My experience was when my jet 1642 started making an interesting clicking noise about a week after I set it up. I called Jet and they recommended a local repair place. I called them and they told me to pull the headstock and bring it in. In about 20 minutes the guy had the the head set up and in another 10 minutes he cleaned a woodchip out the index hole that was causing a vacuum click. While he was at it he decided my face place was sub par and replaced it with a nifty machined steel one for free. Total cost, exectly nothing.

And my recently purchased 12x20 works like a charm.

If a manufacturer makes a lot of lathes some of them will be lemons and some will be good. And if there are a lot of repair outlets some will be better than others. I'd probably like Grizzly's but I would have a heck of a time getting to a grizzy store to get something fixed. That determines more of my buying behavior than the occasional bad or good experience.

Marc


Rifleman1776 said:
Do I dare start something here? Oh, well. Comparing experiences is good information for our members.
The one time I needed repair service on a new machine was with my Grizzly planer. When I backed up to the loading door at the store, a big guy came out with a smile, took the machine and directed me to the waiting room with free coffee, sofas and a big screen TV. He said he would page me when the repair was done. I choose to browse and drool over the many tools on display instead, and even made some small purchases. Sure enough, about twenty minutes later, "Smiley" called me, put the tool back in the car, wished me well and I was off. IMHO, that is what service should be and comparable to what I gave when I owned my stores.
I'm in the thinking "maybe I will" stage of possibly buying a mini lathe to use when my full sized is tied up with a big project. From this thread, I am dissuaded from even considering a Jet. Dunno, makes sense though to, at least, compare and consider as I know folks, here and in person, who are happy with theirs.
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And the lathe is back!!! After 2 weeks and probably all of about 1 hour of looking at it the final results were out of alignment pulleys. The 2 pulleys were not in line thus giving me the thumping symptom or as I called it a hop. Is this believable??? I guess so because it does not have the feel of the hop and not sure what they did to line up the points but they are dead on now. A dial indicator was put on it and it was within tolerance was what I was told. Will set it up and take it for a test run this weekend hopefully. So not sure if anyone else has run into this problem but that was what was reported to Jet. Thanks all for the support and replys.
 
They may have shimmed the headstock for you to line up the points. I had to place a small strip of a plastic sheet to line the points up on my 10/14.
 
Mikey said:
They may have shimmed the headstock for you to line up the points. I had to place a small strip of a plastic sheet to line the points up on my 10/14.
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jttheclockman said:
....They are off a tad left to right. Have no way to measure this......
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I don't think shimming the HS would have solved John's alignment problem. Shimming would help with a vertical misalignment; but his was a lateral misalignment so it would only be necessary to loosen the HS bolts and twist/rotate the HS to aling the points.

Only problem with this is you can have the points perfectly aligned and still not have the HS and the TS properly aligned. Not only must the HS point and the TS point be aligned; but the axis of each must be parallel/concentric(?) to each other.

As an extreme example, think of the following. Place two wooden pencils on a table with the points touching and and both pencils in a straight line. This is the alignment you want between your HS and your TS. Now take one of the pencils and rotate it 90°. The pencils now are at right angles to each other but the points still match perfectly???? So you see that the points can match perfectly but the axial alignment is waaaay off.

Just aligning the points in no way assures that your lathe is properly aligned!!
 
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