soccer2010
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Is there much of a difference between the skogger and the woodchuck? You can PM me if you prefer.
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One is about the same price as the Easy Rougher from Craft Supply while the other is about half that price for the same tool..... go figure!Is there much of a difference between the skogger and the woodchuck? You can PM me if you prefer.
Is there much of a difference between the skogger and the woodchuck? You can PM me if you prefer.
soccer2010, Judging from comments above and from other threads, it's obvious that all the tools being discussed are simply holders for carbide tips. If one does not have the skills or tools to make their own, these readily available tools are just fine and a little shopping around will reveal some pretty decent prices.Is there much of a difference between the skogger and the woodchuck? You can PM me if you prefer.
I purchased my inserts from woodchuck/bitshird and got a piece of 1/2" steel from the scrap yard. A couple minutes with the grinder and a quick drill and tap and I was set. It's not super hard to do, but if you don't have the ablility to do it yourself then by all means get it from one of the suppliers.
The only bad part about grinding out the insert pocket is getting it dead level,and getting the back line right since it has to hold the insert from rotating. Carbide while extremely hard is also very brittle, it's easy to snap an insert by over tightening it,
That would be a trick since the holding rod needs to be shaped and beveled to allow the cutter to sit without twisting when the screw is tightened.Thanks to all who replied. I was looking for input on the differences between available tools, namely those offered by IAP members as that's who I would look at buying from first. I'm not really looking to make my own at this point. It would be nice to have one tool that had both the round and the diamond cutters on the same tool.
I've got it... a double ended tool with a round tip on one end then a square end on the other
I made one but decided NOT to sell it for SAFETY reasons. Ever think what would happen if the tool "twisted/turned" ackward and thrust into your belly with a sharp carbide or sliced your hand?
Um, Er, Snip?
I've got it... a double ended tool with a round tip on one end then a square end on the other
I made one but decided NOT to sell it for SAFETY reasons. Ever think what would happen if the tool "twisted/turned" ackward and thrust into your belly with a sharp carbide or sliced your hand?
I was thinking of having a spot for each insert at the same end just on opposite sides. Only one insert would be on the tool at a time. I wasn't thinking of having both inserts in at the same time for obvious safety reasons. It sounds like a nice addition for someone that would use one insert most of the time and didn't want to spend another chunk of money on the additional tool. Thanks for everyone's help.
That would be a trick since the holding rod needs to be shaped and beveled to allow the cutter to sit without twisting when the screw is tightened.
I've got it... a double ended tool with a round tip on one end then a square end on the other
Since you would be getting "two tools" instead of one, IMHO if the price was less than the price of two individual tools, then the additional cost over a single tool might be worth it.I do however like the suggestion of the "sliding cover" for protection and although it can be done I'm concerned about the added cost to the unit price of the tool.
Since you would be getting "two tools" instead of one, IMHO if the price was less than the price of two individual tools, then the additional cost over a single tool might be worth it.
Uncouth, I don't understand. The way I see it there are at least half a dozen "versions" of basically the same tool floating around, two of which are being sold by IAP members, perhaps a third, I don't know. Just because they are forum members I don't see why discussing their tools or the prices of those tools is any different than discssing anything else we buy around here especially when similar tools are offered elsewhere. If someone is interested in a nib, folks are willing to say Greg sells them for $XXX or Joe sells a certain blank for $XXX or kit xyz is on sale for $xxx over at John's place so what's different here? Competition is good right... may the best man (tool) win!Who sells the skogger? I'd be interested in comparing the prices. PM me is it's uncouth to ask....
Uncouth, I don't understand. The way I see it there are at least half a dozen "versions" of basically the same tool floating around, two of which are being sold by IAP members, perhaps a third, I don't know. Just because they are forum members I don't see why discussing their tools or the prices of those tools is any different than discssing anything else we buy around here especially when similar tools are offered elsewhere. If someone is interested in a nib, folks are willing to say Greg sells them for $XXX or Joe sells a certain blank for $XXX or kit xyz is on sale for $xxx over at John's place so what's different here? Competition is good right... may the best man (tool) win!
If I'm wrong in my thinking someone please correct me HERE not with a PM, I get enough of those as it is.
Bigguyz, both members offering their tools posted above, both have their websites listed so it should be easy shopping, they are:
Ken (bitshird) and Peter (wood-of-1kind)
I don't know anything about how the others work, I looked at the Ci1 at Woodcraft, and one that another turner has in our club, and read an article by Frank - Rifleman1776, and made my own.
I enjoyed learning some new skills in making the tool. I have 2 more ready to go, and I am going to try some other inserts.
The first one took a little over 3 hrs to make. I must also say that JohnnyCnC, gave great advice and encouragement for me to undertake this project. The inserts I used were from Grizzly.
I can't compare it to the others as I have never used them, but it certainly makes wood round, very quickly.
My concern with all these tools is the same. Should any of them go out of business, where would you buy the inserts for their particular tool?
Steve
Steve; If the insert has a flat top, it is easy to sharpen them on a credit card style diamond sharpener. Stay away from the ones with holes in them.
A couple of passes across the card and they cut like new, but buy an extra one!