How long YouTube?

[ed4copies]

Ok, I am making another YouTube.

This one is about turning a shaving brush. But, I am turning a brush from a piece of alligator jaw bone that has been cast. So, real time I turned for about a half hour and used the skew and a round-nosed carbide tool.

Through the "magic of film", I can turn this in VERY little time. OR, I can stay closer to reality and show more of the actual "material removal".

What do you look for, when you watch YouTubes?

Do you want to see slow removal of material? Or, do I cut the video and get the job done faster?

I have made this a public poll, so I may PM you for further information about your opinion.

Comments are encouraged!!!
Ed

 

[keithkarl2007]

I'd rather see a video from start to finish. You may edit out some small detail that others may have liked to see.

 

[Russianwolf]

Ed, do you have the ability to time lapse it? I'd imagine that for a good chuck of it is just going back and forth with little talking. If you can collapse that portion to a minute or two, then.......

 

[Drstrangefart]

I usually drift off mentally after about the 5 minute mark.

 

[ed4copies]

Yes, I can edit and the editing program is, in the words of the "IT-savvy kids" "POWERFUL"!!

In addition, I always do voice over, rather than talk while turning, so there is no sound to worry about.

So, the issue really revolves around the point made above: If I edit the turning, I will be taking out the technique that keeps the blank from "blowing up". I am showing what "sharp tools, shallow cuts" means. But, after a few passes, have you "got that, now move on!!"??

THAT is what I don't really know.

 

[Lucky2]

I would prefer that it was all in one video, I find it to be a PITA to have to keep switching to the next video. If a person is interested in what is being shown, they will watch the whole thing.
Len

 

[RustySplinters]

cut and paste. add a bit about drilling. Do a small clip of taking off material. Add about finishing and putting together with the components.

 

[Linarestribe]

I like it all on one video. No series stuff. I like to see the details of a project but with things like sanding or repetitive stuff edited out to make it shorter.

 

[Smitty37]

It kind of depends - As long as the video is introducing new material it's fine to show it but if parts of the video are watching grass grow or watching the dew dry cut them. People need to see the "meat" of what you are trying to show, they don't need to see time spent (for instance) turning a block from big to small because watching the material peel off is cool.

 

[Leatherman1998]

Don't cut it at all, I like the details no matter how small.

 

[ed4copies]

I think I have decided I can't please ALL the people, ALL the time.

So, since the video bores ME, I am going to make it short.

Then, in the next couple days, I will make more that are longer and incorporate "how to's" in more detail.

In a 15 minute video of turning, I run out of ways to say, "Take off more material" or "shape to suit your preferences".

AND, it has been several hours---I get tired of looking at it.

 

[leehljp]

One thing that turns me off about video is more talking than doing/working. If an introduction is still going on more than 1/4 to 1/3 the way into a video that has an enticing name, I will just forgo the rest and move on to something else.

I marked 4 to 5 minutes but this may not be realistic for many people. I personally enjoy the "meat" and usually end up watching the technique of hand/tool/speed and the coordination of those as much as the shaping itself.

For beginners and newbies though, the full length will offer some insights that they may not have. And some people think faster is better. By watching the full length, they may get insight into what professionals do (timewise) with special turnings.

As you said, you can't please everyone but you can focus a general target group such as newbies to intermediates, or other.

 

[76winger]

I think showing the whole thing is way too much watching and waiting, seeing the same thing: peeling off fine shavings. To me, a good video of the turning process would include:

• Showing the raw materials & components
• Showing the cutting and drilling processes
• Drilling/threading the blank
• Rounding
• (skip the turning down to size)
• Show the shaping process where you're giving it the shape you want.
• Sanding the blank for smoothing
• Applying whatever sealer/finish you plan to use
• Micromesh stages (abbreviated, we don't need to see every step).
• Assembly
• Show the final product!

In all if a video like this takes much more than 5 minutes I'm loosing interest. And if its much more than 10 minutes: I've got other things to do (no offense to the videographer, I just keep myself too busy).

 

[Jgrden]

You Tube should be short and quick. A full episode should take the place of "This Old House". You should go on TV. Why not produce a video and send it in?? It would be a great documentary to make.

 

[Andrew_K99]

It all depends on what you're showing and you're ability to write a good meaningful voice over. I'd be able to watch 30 minutes of making a blank round if you had 30 minutes of audio that was interesting and not repetitive. If you're playing elevator music to kill time you'll likely loose me.

So my suggestion, work on what you'd like to say and get across and record the audio first, then put appropriate video to it.

AK

 

[ctubbs]

I think showing the whole thing is way too much watching and waiting, seeing the same thing: peeling off fine shavings. To me, a good video of the turning process would include:

• Showing the raw materials & components
• Showing the cutting and drilling processes
• Drilling/threading the blank
• Rounding
• (skip the turning down to size)
• Show the shaping process where you're giving it the shape you want.
• Sanding the blank for smoothing
• Applying whatever sealer/finish you plan to use
• Micromesh stages (abbreviated, we don't need to see every step).
• Assembly
• Show the final product!

In all if a video like this takes much more than 5 minutes I'm loosing interest. And if its much more than 10 minutes: I've got other things to do (no offense to the videographer, I just keep myself too busy).

Dave has it pretty well nailed except for the new turner. I know when I was starting out, it would have been great to have seen some videos showing the placement and operation of the tools similar to what you did with the skew. Very good. If you present a training type vid, a shot from the side showing how to rub the bevel and set the tool post would have been great. What you provided is about right for the information you were trying to get across. If you cut anything, possibly a small bit of the rounding part, but I found the whole process you showed very informative. Thanks again for showing.
Charles

 

[ed4copies]

Thanks to everyone for your input!!

I takeaway a couple thoughts: Writing the script, then adding vid is an interesting concept. It would mean "shooting" in segments, but I believe it could be done, without too much "hassle".

Charlie, you state it well: who is my target "watcher". Perhaps I need to define these vids as "detailed for beginner", "over view for more experienced".

I was not very happy with the final "cut" of this one. Several things are left out, that I think are important (like how to handle the bottom of the handle).

So, please continue to suggest. I AM gaining something from this and anticipate it WILL make my vids better.

THANKSS!!!!!

Ed