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Yet another close (217,000 miles) call with 100' asteroid! Maybe it's just me but, it seems like within the last 18-24 months or so, the frequency of these unexpected "space rocks" buzzing our planet is on the rise. Maybe instead of rewiring, insulating and heating my garage this year, I should build a bunker? Hmmm :rolleyes:
 
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SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA JOE!! yOU COULD KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE AS THEY SAY. (Who are the "they) we are always quoteing?? You could become a mole and a doomsdayer for the same price. Better be a deep bunker!! HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE SIZE OF CRATER LAKE?? Jim S
 
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plantman said:
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA JOE!! yOU COULD KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE AS THEY SAY. (Who are the "they) we are always quoteing?? You could become a mole and a doomsdayer for the same price. Better be a deep bunker!! HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE SIZE OF CRATER LAKE?? Jim S
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The bunker part wasn't serious :) Not in person but, yes, I've seen pictures of it and others like it. Glad I wasn't around then.

MichaelD said:
Not as infrequent as you might think. Here's my homepage. At the bottom is a list of the major and some of the minor ones that pass. And that's less than .1%.

www.spaceweather.com
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Thanks for the reminder, I haven't looked at that site for awhile.
Was referring to the frequency of asteroids that just pop up out of nowhere and give us a close shave or worse. :eek:
 
Interesting but not exiting.

I view Asteroids in a fairly simple manner - they're there; some pass close to Earth; some strike Earth; a large enough one will cause real problems; One could be large enough to wipe out life on Earth. And there ain't a darned think we can do about them, Of course we could get the EPA to regulate them.
 
:confused::rolleyes:I've got a few spare rolls of reynolds wrap if that'll make you feel better?..other than that perhaps some Prozac and the understanding we're all going sometime may help...
 
JP61 said:
Yet another close (217,000 miles) call with 100' asteroid! Maybe it's just me but, it seems like within the last 18-24 months or so, the frequency of these unexpected "space rocks" buzzing our planet is on the rise. Maybe instead of rewiring, insulating and heating my garage this year, I should build a bunker? Hmmm :rolleyes:
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I think the odds are better the Browns will win a super bowl than an asteroid obliterating the planet...plus I have the knowledge that if it happens and we made a bet...gonna be a tough collection:biggrin:
 
Crater Lake Oregon is a Volcano. Part of the the ring of fire that covers Northern California, Oregon, Washington and out into the Pacific. The Island in Crater Lake is a Cinder Cone. Don't need any space rocks out here. We have Gov. Moonbeam:biggrin:
 
Smitty37 said:
I view Asteroids in a fairly simple manner - they're there; some pass close to Earth; some strike Earth; a large enough one will cause real problems; One could be large enough to wipe out life on Earth. And there ain't a darned think we can do about them, Of course we could get the EPA to regulate them.
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In my opinion, it's about time!
 
You know if the government says they can not hit the earth. They can not hit the earth.
Its the law.
Of course a vote on this by the government might take two years.
 
tbroye said:
Crater Lake Oregon is a Volcano. Part of the the ring of fire that covers Northern California, Oregon, Washington and out into the Pacific. The Island in Crater Lake is a Cinder Cone. Don't need any space rocks out here. We have Gov. Moonbeam:biggrin:
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You're right, Crater Lake is not the result of an asteroid impact. Though I have seen pics of it, just didn't read the words. :redface:
 
Ambidex said:
I think the odds are better the Browns will win a super bowl than an asteroid obliterating the planet...plus I have the knowledge that if it happens and we made a bet...gonna be a tough collection:biggrin:
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That is probably true, but I wasn't talking about destroying the planet. Just seems to me that, lately there's been more stuff flying by and closer than I've noticed before, including the three asteroids this week.

Must be a lot of rocks out there to have any of them even come close, considering that we're moving at 67,000 m/hr. And after this this winter, that's not fast enough, in my opinion :biggrin:
 
johns486 said:
On a lighter note, if one does land can we turn it.
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Yes, but it will be 'hoarded' by a few and then sold at unreasonable rates....so we 'normal folks' will have to wait for the next one to bring the prices down.





Scott (aliens are redirecting them to hits us) B
 
tbroye said:
I think now with the tech stuff we know more about them and track them easier.
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No doubt, today we have better equipment and more eyes in the sky. But, there's a lot of space out there to be covered and in that regard we come up short, for now.
 
JP61 said:
Smitty37 said:
I view Asteroids in a fairly simple manner - they're there; some pass close to Earth; some strike Earth; a large enough one will cause real problems; One could be large enough to wipe out life on Earth. And there ain't a darned think we can do about them, Of course we could get the EPA to regulate them.
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In my opinion, it's about time!
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Well in my opinion just because the UN decides to do something dumb doesn't change the fact that it's dumb. Few would be large enough to detect far enough in advance and plot their trajectory for that to succeed.
 
Smitty37 said:
Well in my opinion just because the UN decides to do something dumb doesn't change the fact that it's dumb. Few would be large enough to detect far enough in advance and plot their trajectory for that to succeed.
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It's a start...

Better than being in denial, not thinking of solutions and/or doing nothing.
This is part of the reality you were questioning earlier in one of your threads.

What kind of, not so dumb solution(s) do you have?
 
JP61 said:
Smitty37 said:
Well in my opinion just because the UN decides to do something dumb doesn't change the fact that it's dumb. Few would be large enough to detect far enough in advance and plot their trajectory for that to succeed.
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It's a start...

Better than being in denial, not thinking of solutions and/or doing nothing.
This is part of the reality you were questioning earlier in one of your threads.

What kind of, not so dumb solution(s) do you have?
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If I thought there was a solution, I might have a "not so dumb one" in mind. But, I personally that there is now and always will be (thank goodness) some things that are beyond human capability.
 
Smitty37 said:
If I thought there was a solution, I might have a "not so dumb one" in mind. But, I personally that there is now and always will be (thank goodness) some things that are beyond human capability.
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Yes, "some things" are beyond human capability however, this isn't one of those things in my opinion. We're just at the beginning stages of seriously considering what to do about this real probability. Who knows, it may take another +/-100 years for humanity, mainly scientists, to come up with a viable solution. I choose to remain confident. :biggrin: Meanwhile, we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed. Unfortunately my mental capability to be of any help in this regard is very limited but, I do find the topic interesting.
 
JP61 said:
Smitty37 said:
If I thought there was a solution, I might have a "not so dumb one" in mind. But, I personally that there is now and always will be (thank goodness) some things that are beyond human capability.
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Yes, "some things" are beyond human capability however, this isn't one of those things in my opinion. We're just at the beginning stages of seriously considering what to do about this real probability. Who knows, it may take another +/-100 years for humanity, mainly scientists, to come up with a viable solution. I choose to remain confident. :biggrin: Meanwhile, we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed. Unfortunately my mental capability to be of any help in this regard is very limited but, I do find the topic interesting.
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When scientific problems are appoached by political means (the UN is a political organization) the politics will always supercede the science. This will usually result in what might be viable scientifically subject to the whims of politics and the science will suffer - and while one source nation diverting enormous resources to the problem (which no nation will do) you are concerned about might come up with a semi-workable solution 200 nations arguing about who should do what and who ought to pay for it and all the nonsense that politicians argue about will not.
 
Just get all the politicians foreign and domestic to exhale at the same the hot air will change our orbit and move us out of the way.:biggrin:
 
Smitty37 said:
When scientific problems are appoached by political means (the UN is a political organization) the politics will always supercede the science. This will usually result in what might be viable scientifically subject to the whims of politics and the science will suffer - and while one source nation diverting enormous resources to the problem (which no nation will do) you are concerned about might come up with a semi-workable solution 200 nations arguing about who should do what and who ought to pay for it and all the nonsense that politicians argue about will not.
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It today's world, life can't exist without effects of politics. Where one stands in the political field makes no difference to the universe. Complexity of this matter, its potential consequences requires prioritization and complex solutions. Don't ask me what those are :biggrin: I'm just an average Joe. However, I do know or at least am of the opinion that we shouldn't keep on sitting on our hands with fingers crossed or in denial and we are not. Content of chapters and ultimately the number of pages in the history book of humanity is up to us, the authors.
 
tbroye said:
Just get all the politicians foreign and domestic to exhale at the same the hot air will change our orbit and move us out of the way.:biggrin:
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:eek: Be careful what you wish for! I for one find the "goldilocks zone" pretty comfortable. On the other hand, you may have just discovered the source of global warming :smile:
 
JP61 said:
Smitty37 said:
When scientific problems are appoached by political means (the UN is a political organization) the politics will always supercede the science. This will usually result in what might be viable scientifically subject to the whims of politics and the science will suffer - and while one source nation diverting enormous resources to the problem (which no nation will do) you are concerned about might come up with a semi-workable solution 200 nations arguing about who should do what and who ought to pay for it and all the nonsense that politicians argue about will not.
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It today's world, life can't exist without effects of politics. Where one stands in the political field makes no difference to the universe. Complexity of this matter, its potential consequences requires prioritization and complex solutions. Don't ask me what those are :biggrin: I'm just an average Joe. However, I do know or at least am of the opinion that we shouldn't keep on sitting on our hands with fingers crossed or in denial and we are not. Content of chapters and ultimately the number of pages in the history book of humanity is up to us, the authors.
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Where one stand politically should also make no difference to science. Yet today it does because what might make good politics might also make bad science and basing scientific conclusions on political beliefs then feeding them back into the political system can lead only to making wrong decisions.
 
:confused: Smells like something is burning here... I may have tripped a couple of breakers. I'll go crawl back in my hole now and ponder the meaning of nothing. Thanks for playing along though! :smile:
 
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