jttheclockman
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Well Smitty not many of you 80 and older members here so we will have to take your word for it. 

I'm not 80 and older....I am only 78Well Smitty not many of you 80 and older members here so we will have to take your word for it.![]()
I'm not 80 and older....I am only 78Well Smitty not many of you 80 and older members here so we will have to take your word for it.![]()
And one of those costs was an automobile. BIG BIG Difference now. In 1966 I bought a Brand New Ford Fairlane 500 with V-8, Automatic Transmission, Power Steering and Brakes, White Side Wall Tires - $2,000.00 out the door - including license, tax and title. That was a full-size car.Funny thing is that as much as we all might think that the "good old days" of sub-$0.50/gallon gas would be great - that also came with sub-$1000/month paychecks.
I think that Skip is right, we are probably paying a bit less proportionally than back then - however, we are still WAY behind in terms of spending power now vs. then.
These days, only 5% of the population make more than $85K per year or more...and, depending on which major metropolitan area you live in, even that isn't enough to support a family anymore.
What happened to the time when a one-income family to afford to live comfortably in the US? The middle class is an endangered species I'm afraid...the standard of living has not kept up with inflation...
And now, I'm going to go think of something less depressing...sigh.
Edit: Found this: Inflation Adjusted Gasoline Prices
Interesting reading, but for those that just want the down and dirty, I attached a pdf of the nominal prices adjusted for inflation.
You caught a real bargain -- in '67 I priced the same car at over $2800 ended up with a Chevy at $2900...no trade and all cash, no financing.And one of those costs was an automobile. BIG BIG Difference now. In 1966 I bought a Brand New Ford Fairlane 500 with V-8, Automatic Transmission, Power Steering and Brakes, White Side Wall Tires - $2,000.00 out the door - including license, tax and title. That was a full-size car.Funny thing is that as much as we all might think that the "good old days" of sub-$0.50/gallon gas would be great - that also came with sub-$1000/month paychecks.
I think that Skip is right, we are probably paying a bit less proportionally than back then - however, we are still WAY behind in terms of spending power now vs. then.
These days, only 5% of the population make more than $85K per year or more...and, depending on which major metropolitan area you live in, even that isn't enough to support a family anymore.
What happened to the time when a one-income family to afford to live comfortably in the US? The middle class is an endangered species I'm afraid...the standard of living has not kept up with inflation...
And now, I'm going to go think of something less depressing...sigh.
Edit: Found this: Inflation Adjusted Gasoline Prices
Interesting reading, but for those that just want the down and dirty, I attached a pdf of the nominal prices adjusted for inflation.
You can laugh but I can remember when the only tractor in town was a Famall A (came out in 1939) and everybody plowed their gardens with a horse. My dad was an expert behind a horse or team of horses both in the garden and in the lumber woods. So I do know about 'oaters'. I also raised and bred standardbred horses for a few years until I got so many kids I couldn't afford it anymore.He remembers when it was a bucket of oats. who is he kidding:biggrin: One HPOh I did walk behind the horse and plow breaking up clods.
Talking about cars - I paid cash with no trade and no financing for the first used ('57 Chevy Bel Aire 2-door Hard Top) and the first 3 new vehicles '62 Chevy Impala 2 door hard top, '67 Chevy Impala 2 door hard top and '69 Chevy C10 half ton pick-up) I bought. All of those vehicles got about 17/18 mpg highway and about 15 mpg local driving.
Didn't finance until I bought a BIG 10 passenger Ford Country Squire w/429 cid V-8 etc. Got about 14 mpg highway down hill with a tail wind and 11 in town but for a big car it could get out of its own way.
I never drove a 348 myself but a friend of mine had a 1958 Chevy Impala (first year for both the model and the engine) with 3 duces and it darn sure wasn't slow off the line. The hotest '59 Chevy I remember was the El Camino pickup truck. I almost bought a '59 while in the Navy, but couldn't figure out how to get it home (I didn't have a drivers license and had to pick it up in NYC) and nobody in my family at the time could have handled the city driving.Talking about cars - I paid cash with no trade and no financing for the first used ('57 Chevy Bel Aire 2-door Hard Top) and the first 3 new vehicles '62 Chevy Impala 2 door hard top, '67 Chevy Impala 2 door hard top and '69 Chevy C10 half ton pick-up) I bought. All of those vehicles got about 17/18 mpg highway and about 15 mpg local driving.
Didn't finance until I bought a BIG 10 passenger Ford Country Squire w/429 cid V-8 etc. Got about 14 mpg highway down hill with a tail wind and 11 in town but for a big car it could get out of its own way.
Loved the '57 Chevies.... My first car was a '59 Impala 2 door coupe with an Okie rake on it... (the rear was dropped 2 inches)...and a Herscht conversion kit that took the automatic off the column and set 3 on the floor... I could just barely reach 2nd gear when shifting....
I got off the bus in Chandler, AZ when I was in the navy and headed back to San Francisco. My mom was there with her husband working at the local airforce base... I think I paid about $800 for it. It had a 348 Cu.in engine and once rolling(it was very slow off the line) ran pretty good, until about 85 or so... then the rear end started to lift from the tail fin wings... Driving around in San Francisco on those hills, I bet I rolled back into more cars than I care to count trying to get it up the hills.
Where I grew up and wherever I bought gas myself it was always stated how much to pump in $$. If someone wanted gallons they said it very clearly when they ordered. I knew 1 older guy who always bought 10 gallons. He bought gas once a week and didn't use quite 10 gallons so every 6 weeks or so he'd skip a week and go out and drink on the gas money. I suppose 10 gallons cost him about $2.00 to $2.50 and that would buy a lot of 5 cent beers.I remember .199 per gallon during a gas war, but by the time I worked in a Sinclair Station it was .299 and up. I washed cars and pumped gas for $5 a day for a 10 hour Saturday, $4.71 after deducting .29 for social security.
A miserable old miser came in and told me to put in 5. I put in $5 and he told the owner he wanted 5 gallons,not $5, he refused to pay for $5 worth of gas. The owner deducted $3.20 out of my pay that day because I put in more gas that he asked for.
Forgot that it also had AM/FM radio with built-in 8-track player. Yes Smitty, I did get a good deal. Bought it at an employee car sale. (I worked for Ford but wasn't high enough to have the "A" plan. - Had to make the best deal I could with the dealer.). Was under pressure to buy it. I started at Ford out of college and had a Dodge Lancer. I was on Salary and was told that I couldn't drive a "Foreign Car" (i.e. a non-Ford product) to work after my 90 day probationary period was up -which is was.And one of those costs was an automobile. BIG BIG Difference now. In 1966 I bought a Brand New Ford Fairlane 500 with V-8, Automatic Transmission, Power Steering and Brakes, White Side Wall Tires - $2,000.00 out the door - including license, tax and title. That was a full-size car.
I never drove a 348 myself but a friend of mine had a 1958 Chevy Impala (first year for both the model and the engine) with 3 duces and it darn sure wasn't slow off the line. The hotest '59 Chevy I remember was the El Camino pickup truck. I almost bought a '59 while in the Navy, but couldn't figure out how to get it home (I didn't have a drivers license and had to pick it up in NYC) and nobody in my family at the time could have handled the city driving.Talking about cars - I paid cash with no trade and no financing for the first used ('57 Chevy Bel Aire 2-door Hard Top) and the first 3 new vehicles '62 Chevy Impala 2 door hard top, '67 Chevy Impala 2 door hard top and '69 Chevy C10 half ton pick-up) I bought. All of those vehicles got about 17/18 mpg highway and about 15 mpg local driving.
Didn't finance until I bought a BIG 10 passenger Ford Country Squire w/429 cid V-8 etc. Got about 14 mpg highway down hill with a tail wind and 11 in town but for a big car it could get out of its own way.
Loved the '57 Chevies.... My first car was a '59 Impala 2 door coupe with an Okie rake on it... (the rear was dropped 2 inches)...and a Herscht conversion kit that took the automatic off the column and set 3 on the floor... I could just barely reach 2nd gear when shifting....
I got off the bus in Chandler, AZ when I was in the navy and headed back to San Francisco. My mom was there with her husband working at the local airforce base... I think I paid about $800 for it. It had a 348 Cu.in engine and once rolling(it was very slow off the line) ran pretty good, until about 85 or so... then the rear end started to lift from the tail fin wings... Driving around in San Francisco on those hills, I bet I rolled back into more cars than I care to count trying to get it up the hills.
Forgot that it also had AM/FM radio with built-in 8-track player. Yes Smitty, I did get a good deal. Bought it at an employee car sale. (I worked for Ford but wasn't high enough to have the "A" plan. - Had to make the best deal I could with the dealer.). Was under pressure to buy it. I started at Ford out of college and had a Dodge Lancer. I was on Salary and was told that I couldn't drive a "Foreign Car" (i.e. a non-Ford product) to work after my 90 day probationary period was up -which is was.And one of those costs was an automobile. BIG BIG Difference now. In 1966 I bought a Brand New Ford Fairlane 500 with V-8, Automatic Transmission, Power Steering and Brakes, White Side Wall Tires - $2,000.00 out the door - including license, tax and title. That was a full-size car.
They were pretty popular for a time when Richard Petty was putting manners on everyone at NASCAR with them.Forgot that it also had AM/FM radio with built-in 8-track player. Yes Smitty, I did get a good deal. Bought it at an employee car sale. (I worked for Ford but wasn't high enough to have the "A" plan. - Had to make the best deal I could with the dealer.). Was under pressure to buy it. I started at Ford out of college and had a Dodge Lancer. I was on Salary and was told that I couldn't drive a "Foreign Car" (i.e. a non-Ford product) to work after my 90 day probationary period was up -which is was.And one of those costs was an automobile. BIG BIG Difference now. In 1966 I bought a Brand New Ford Fairlane 500 with V-8, Automatic Transmission, Power Steering and Brakes, White Side Wall Tires - $2,000.00 out the door - including license, tax and title. That was a full-size car.
My first wife worked for Chrysler Credit when we first married... she always got flack for not driving a Chrysler product... I drove a Corvette when we first met and married, he first husband left her with a Ford Cortina. I didn't like Chrysler products and wasn't about to buy one at that time. In 7 years of marriage, we changed cars about 7 times and none of them were Chrysler products. :biggrin:
I remember being upset when gas went from 23.9 to 24.9 cents. I miss Green Stamps to.
Kinda makes me think of the time at Great Lakes Naval Training Center that a bunch of us stole a sign that was and arrow with COMMISSIONED OFFICERS MESS printed on it and stuck it on the wall in our barracks pointing at the door to the head. A Marine Warrant Officer came in the barracks one night (because we had placed a FOR SALE sign if front of the barracks). and upon seeing that sign one could say he was not amused.I remember being upset when gas went from 23.9 to 24.9 cents. I miss Green Stamps to.
Green Stamps! You won't believe how much trouble a couple of us got into one halloween for moving the "We give S&H Green Stamps" sign from in front of the gas station to in front of the local funeral home!