Firefyter-emt
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Help me out here guys. I like the look of this kit hardware, but I am not fond of the shortness of the El-Toro. The El-Presidente appears to be much better balanced, however it's not avaiable in a FP. Now BB sells a "conversion kit" to make it into one, however I was looking at the two kits and noticed that they used the same drill bit sizes. So I ordered a spare set of tubes for the El-Presidente and the El-Toro FP. Well hey, guess what. I checked the 2 sets of tube with my calipers and the cap tubes are the same, and the body tubes are the same (there was a mild varriation on OD, but so tiny it's a production variation) However, it's a hair under 1" longer.
Soooo.. it would appear if you want the FP in this style, with an ink pump, buy the El-Toro and some replacement tubes for the El-Presidente. You will also need the ink pump, so add in $1.00 (or $4.00) plus a $.60 set of tubes and the cost to make the El-Presidente in a FP (streched El-Toro) is under $5.00. The conversion kit is $8.00 to $14.00.
Now, am I missing anything here? is there an issue with my plan? The cap tube is the same, so cap length will match and I am just making the body as long as the El-Presedente so it will not look odd. (LOL, "odd looking" based on what the El-Toro normaly looks like!)
What I really want to do is to base this "mod" on the El-Toro with a closed end pen and a replacement cap final. Done like this I think would look great with the very subdued looking kit.
Soooo.. it would appear if you want the FP in this style, with an ink pump, buy the El-Toro and some replacement tubes for the El-Presidente. You will also need the ink pump, so add in $1.00 (or $4.00) plus a $.60 set of tubes and the cost to make the El-Presidente in a FP (streched El-Toro) is under $5.00. The conversion kit is $8.00 to $14.00.
Now, am I missing anything here? is there an issue with my plan? The cap tube is the same, so cap length will match and I am just making the body as long as the El-Presedente so it will not look odd. (LOL, "odd looking" based on what the El-Toro normaly looks like!)
What I really want to do is to base this "mod" on the El-Toro with a closed end pen and a replacement cap final. Done like this I think would look great with the very subdued looking kit.