El Grande tap and die - closed.

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Tap and Die for El Grande cap/body

NOTE note the nib-holder tap isn't perfect. Read my post on page 4

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http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p5ipezQnAB6fbvXWDTRt1GA&output=html

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The raw prices for the tap and die (and tap) are:
... @24+ people
$112.30 (cap tap)
$59.60 (body die)
$7.63 (nib tap) <- see note on page 4

I've broken the "e-taps to me" shipping & handling across the orders, and assume USPS priority flat-rate shipping to you. I've also calculated the paypal fees, if you choose to pay via paypal.

If I'm way over, I'll spread out refunds
If I'm way under, I'll ask for a few more $$
If its a few $$ close enough, then I'll eat the difference.

Complete final pricing (all costs added, this is your total)

Just the tap and die?:
US? $183.95 (via paypal= $193.26)
Canada/Mexico? $188.35 (via paypal= $197.88)
Other? $190.35 (via paypal= $199.98)

want the extra (nib-holder) tap, too?:
US? $191.58 (via paypal= $201.27)
Canada/Mexico? $195.98 (via paypal= $205.88)
Other? $197.98 (via paypal= $207.98)


Details:

- Tap to thread the cap
M12.0x0.8Px2.4L triple start taps as described above:
3-5 pc $193.00 each
6-11 pc $147.00 each
12-23 pc $128.00 each
24-49 pc $112.30 each
50 ++ TBD

- Die to thread the body
M12.0x0.8Px2.4L triple start dies as described above:
3-5 pc $102.00 each
6-11 pc $ 70.50 each
12-23 pc $ 65.00 each
24-49 pc $ 59.60 each
50 ++ TBD


- Optional tap for inside the body
For tapping the inside of the body to hold the nib, you may want to also pick up a tap. I'll get a quote from e-taps (sorry, I forgot to ask). Bruce pointed me to this example:
http://tinyurl.com/2o7wgm
10mm x 1.0 mm plug tap.
e-taps can do $7.63
note this isn't perfect fit, but close enough to work

Shipping

Priority mail, flat rate envelopes.
- Available anywhere in the U.S. for $4.60
- One rate to Canada and Mexico for $9.00
One rate to all other countries for $11.00

I put tap + die (+ other top, maybe) into some bubble wrap, into that envelope and pray its less than 4 lbs :-)

-- joe
 
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I'm in for a set. <s>The M10x1 is a standard size and available anywhere. I am not interested in that one. (In fact it is part of most mtric sets.)</s> That info was incorrect... std metric sets have the M10x1.25 and M10x1.5 but (generally?) not the M10x1. <s> I would like to get the M10x1 also [8D]</s> I do not need the M10x1
 
I am in. It looks like I can use this on other kits too. It should fit as long as I don't plan on using centerbands. As long as the diameter is compatible with the kit, I will be fine. I was even thinking that it would work with a Baron or JR, as most of the pens I see with threaded bodies don't neck down as much at the threads as ours do with the metal couplers. This might be a better size range for this tap. As long as the Centerband coupler is not going to be used, there is no need to match threads from the kit parts. In fact, with just a nib and feed, a whole pen could be built up. (Need to fashion a section and clip) This is going to be wide open fun!

Thanks for doing this!
Dave
 
Originally posted by scubaman

I'm in for a set. The M10x1 is a standard size and available anywhere. I am not interested in that one. (In fact it is part of most mtric sets.)

Rich, I thought so too, and was sure I wouldn't need it until I checked my set last night. :( Apparently I bought one of the few metric sets that only includes the 10mm x 1.25mm and 10mm x 1.5mm... and it's a new set at that.[V]
 
Originally posted by alamocdc

Originally posted by scubaman

I'm in for a set. The M10x1 is a standard size and available anywhere. I am not interested in that one. (In fact it is part of most mtric sets.)

Rich, I thought so too, and was sure I wouldn't need it until I checked my set last night. :( Apparently I bought one of the few metric sets that only includes the 10mm x 1.25mm and 10mm x 1.5mm... and it's a new set at that.[V]
By golly you're right! It's not part of the set! The metric sets are certain ISO sizes, sets are std like we have NC and NF as the most common sizes. Unlike the multi-lead taps, the M10x1 is commonly available, and can be had four $5-$6 from places like Enco - but this here offers a convenience. Thanks for correcting this!
 
Originally posted by Chuck Key

Originally posted by Monty

What would the cost be, including shipping for just the M10X1 be? Went to the site posted and shipping for one was $7.27.

Check locally with Fastenal at 1118 N. Main St. Suite 2A, Pearland, TX 77581.

Phone: (281)412-2093


Chuckie
Thanks Chuck. Not in a rush for it so if I can't find it cheaper, that's a great resource.
 
Another alternative for the M10 x 1, courtesy of George (TexatDurango). This is on sale for $30 instead of $40 (US).

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=35407

Aside from all the obvious SAE and metric tap and dies, the above set not only has a pretty decent (for the price) tap and die handle, but also has the 10 x 1 metric tap used for the El Grande nib threads as well as the 1/8" NPT pipe tap which matches up pretty well with the small Craft supply threaded nib holders (Jr Gent/Statesman sizes).

If you don't already have T&D handles, this set is seomthing to consider.
 
Me too. I'm in for the Tap/Die/Nib Tap combo.

If we keep on accumulating people who want this, will the price fall based on more purchasers?

Julia
 
I'm missing the 23 count ...I get 20 (posted here + emailed me).
I'll have to go peek at the previous "inquiry" thread.

Maybe that 23 or 24 price break is something to ask for !

- joe
 
Joe, I now count 23 just in this thread. If you have more via PM, that should put us over the mark if they're offering another price break.;) I just LOVE saving money.:D
 
I updated names at the top, original posting here.
(please check your name)

Also, new pricing came in -- I'll update the prices.

I'll update the info tonight -- but:
  • Lets aim to close this by this weekend.
  • I'll confirm our numbers and the order by Monday
  • It'll be 4-5 weeks til they get shipped
 
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