Cursive writing

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Andrew and others it is one of those debated subjects that will not be answered and we all have our opinions. Yes all those computer skills takes you places but so does all the basic math English and history skills do too. We want all kids to grow up to be program engineers but and this maybe getting off the track somewhat the lack of skilled workers today is at an all time low. We need those tradespeople It does not take a college education to become one either. You say archaic but in whose minds, yours???? Its archaic to teach kids any history that is not relavent to what they perceive to become then too using the same logic. Teach them and let the kids decide. That is why kids can not not do simple math without their phones or some other device. I guess you call that archaic too!!!!!!!!!!!!! To me basics still play a roll in todays society. When we all become robots then I will rethink this.
 
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There are a lot of things that help enrich people's lives - but they don't all need to be taught in schools...

Knitting is great for dexterity - but we don't teach knitting classes.

Cursive is fun for kids - so they should be exposed to it at some point (if only to learn how to sign their name); but not as a curriculum expectation that they need to master. That takes the place of some other skill...

(Instructional time is finite time in a classroom - requiring mastery of a skill necessitates time, which means it takes the place of other endeavors...so I'd be thinking long and hard about what purpose the skill has before I made it a requirement).
 
I guess I'll use some critical thinking here and point out the irony of discussing why we should, or should not, teach a style of writing on a site called Penturners.org.

Perhaps another reason small businesses fail. I'm assuming the business here would be pens. We make them and then try to legislate them out of use. Sounds like a good business plan to me.


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I work at a television / radio broadcast station. I had a guy in the control room call me at my desk about a problem. I could not understand him well so I went up to talk to him about it. As it turned out, he had to call me on his cell phone (bad reception in the building) because he did not know how to operate a phone that had a cord! The worst part is he also works part time for the TSA! I guess we may have to have a course on telephones for any new hires.
 
maxwell_smart007 said:
There are a lot of things that help enrich people's lives - but they don't all need to be taught in schools...

Knitting is great for dexterity - but we don't teach knitting classes.

Cursive is fun for kids - so they should be exposed to it at some point (if only to learn how to sign their name); but not as a curriculum expectation that they need to master. That takes the place of some other skill...

(Instructional time is finite time in a classroom - requiring mastery of a skill necessitates time, which means it takes the place of other endeavors...so I'd be thinking long and hard about what purpose the skill has before I made it a requirement).
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Just curious Andrew . Do you teach the same number of classroom hours in a year as you received as a kid ?
 
I like to know what took the time slot for teaching cursive writing and who decided to make this the generation we will stop teaching it. Who makes these command decisions and what are they based on. Heck today kids start schools so young there should be plenty of time to teach basics and that is all it is a basic skill. You can not compare it to Latin. Lets sell some nice flowing fountain pens so people can write in block letters. Heck bic pen can do that. I know, we can advertise our pens can make pecking on a keyboard easier if you have big fingers. All pens can and should come with a stylus for the IPads :smile: Sillyness is what this all seems to me. No valid reason shown here to get rid of it but someone probably thought it was politically incorrect or something.:smile:
 
oldtoolsniper said:
I guess I'll use some critical thinking here and point out the irony of discussing why we should, or should not, teach a style of writing on a site called Penturners.org.

Perhaps another reason small businesses fail. I'm assuming the business here would be pens. We make them and then try to legislate them out of use. Sounds like a good business plan to me.


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I use a Red Malee Burl Wall Street II pen that I made with my own two hands over 6 years ago and I have never once written in cursive with it, but I've gone through multiple refills and the finish is looking a little rough so I know it's getting used regularly.

Does that make me less of a pen maker? I personally don't think so, but to each their own I guess.

:rolleyes:

That being said, I wrapped presents from Santa this year and had to think for a minute how to write "Santa" in cursive on the labels. :rotfl: It was every bit as illegible as my regular handwriting. At one time I even studied caligraphy, but I don't ever use it so it's a lost "art" if you will for me.
 
..... Chemistry professors don't need great handwriting either, I suppose, but typically people talk about the medical doctors who write out prescriptions that only a drug addict or a pharmacist could read ...
 
I moved to Texas in the spring of second grade. At the time, Texas tought cursive in the first or early second grade. Where I'd come from, I wasn't due to learn cursive until the following year. Having to suddenly read and write every assignment in cursive, which I'd never been tought, was really rough.

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OK I have been out of school for some time now and have no idea what these kids are doing today but if they were not required to do that then what are they doing?? Block letter???:smile:
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As long ago as when my kids were in elementary school they were not required to use cursive two or three of my kids have always printed. That would have been in the late 70s and the 80s.
 
Cursive writing was taught and required in Alaska (at least 83 - 92), Virginia (87 - 88), Kansas (92 - 94), and Oklahoma (94 - 2012 .... my sisters attended between 97 and 2012).

I remember needing to write in cursive all through my school years, though in the later classes it was not actually a requirement, but it was allowed as an option.


Block printing is ok, cursive is quite a bit faster if you're good at it, and it certainly looks much better.


It's just ridiculous to see an American walking around in an American city, unable to read business signs just because they are in cursive script ... it's all English!
 
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