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walshjp17

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A few days ago I heard an interview on the radio with a scientist who tasked the chatgpt AI with creating a scientific paper good enough to be published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. That got me thinking. Yesterday In downloaded the AI to my iPhone and tasked it with creating an outline for creating a kitless pen and then writing an essay based upon that outline. The result is attached. It took the AI less than two minutes to create a fairly decent response. It certainly could use more detail but based upon what I asked, I think it is pretty spot on.
 

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hooked

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I recently had a sales guy come into my company trying to sell AI-generated content services. I found the whole concept a little disturbing, so I played around with the tool for a bit, and it uses ChatGBT. One thing I asked it to do was to write me a poem about pen turning. About 30 seconds later, it churned this out:

In the hands of a craftsman, a pen takes shape
From a blank, lifeless slate to a masterpiece to make
The wood, the metal, and the turning machine
All come together to create a writing dream

The lathe spins with a steady hum
As the wood begins to transform
The chisels carve with a gentle touch
And the shavings pile up in a rush

The grain of the wood comes alive
As the pen takes shape, a joy to derive
The curves and lines, smooth and precise
A work of art, a writing device

The metal accentuates the beauty of the wood
A shimmering touch, a reflection so good
The pen comes together, piece by piece
A writing instrument, a masterpiece to unleash

In the hands of the writer, the pen comes to life
A blank canvas, a story to write
The ink flows smoothly, the words take flight
A pen turned with care, a writing delight.
 

Amihai

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I recently had a sales guy come into my company trying to sell AI-generated content services. I found the whole concept a little disturbing, so I played around with the tool for a bit, and it uses ChatGBT. One thing I asked it to do was to write me a poem about pen turning. About 30 seconds later, it churned this out:

In the hands of a craftsman, a pen takes shape
From a blank, lifeless slate to a masterpiece to make
The wood, the metal, and the turning machine
All come together to create a writing dream

The lathe spins with a steady hum
As the wood begins to transform
The chisels carve with a gentle touch
And the shavings pile up in a rush

The grain of the wood comes alive
As the pen takes shape, a joy to derive
The curves and lines, smooth and precise
A work of art, a writing device

The metal accentuates the beauty of the wood
A shimmering touch, a reflection so good
The pen comes together, piece by piece
A writing instrument, a masterpiece to unleash

In the hands of the writer, the pen comes to life
A blank canvas, a story to write
The ink flows smoothly, the words take flight
A pen turned with care, a writing delight.
Another year or two and it will start making pens instead of us.
We are doomed!
 

derekdd

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I've had students use it to do their work for them this past year

Each time, it talked around the issue without providing any real content. It was almost like word salad. Had all the key words but no substance. The few incidences where this happened, the work was so poor it resulted in a failing grade. So far, I'm not impressed for use in that setting.

On the other hand, I have writer friends who have used it to create burbs for their books. Stuff like short paragraph for ads and back cover content. It seemed pretty good for that with some tweaking.
 

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The thing with thes AI-generated works is that they depend on the data sets they were 'trained' with. They can rehash a subject and create a paper, an essay, a poem, etc, but they are not actually creating new and truly original works. If you ask about a subject with little or no data out there on the Web already, you get gibberish and word salad.
 

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If you asked this machine to write a poem using the same criteria, would it write the exact same poem? We are going down a scary path for sure.
 

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If you asked this machine to write a poem using the same criteria, would it write the exact same poem? We are going down a scary path for sure.
Just did it again:

Query: write me a poem about pen turning

In the workshop's quiet, where craftspeople convene,
A humble lathe hums, a woodworker's scene.
They gather their tools, with a purpose in sight,
To craft pens of beauty, turning with might.

A block of fine wood, with its grain and its grace,
Whispers stories and secrets, a canvas to trace.
With chisel in hand and a steady, keen eye,
They shape it with care as the lathe spins, oh, my!

The shavings fly freely, like whispers in the wind,
As the pen takes its form, a new life to begin.
Each pass of the chisel, each stroke of the hand,
Brings forth a creation, a work truly grand.

The woodworker's fingers, so skilled and precise,
Reveal the pen's beauty, as though touched by ice.
They coax out its curves, its elegance untold,
A pen that's a treasure, more precious than gold.

The finish is applied, a luster so fine,
Enhancing the wood's grain, like a rare vintage wine.
The pen's body polished, a jewel in disguise,
Ready to capture thoughts, dreams, and the skies.

In the end, as the lathe's soft humming does cease,
The pen stands before us, a masterpiece, at peace.
It's a testament to patience, craftsmanship, and art,
A pen turned with love, a piece of the heart.

So, remember the pen turners, their passion and care,
As they shape the raw wood into something so rare.
With every stroke of the chisel, every turn of the lathe,
They create works of beauty, like waves on the waves.
 

derekdd

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Just did it again:

Query: write me a poem about pen turning

In the workshop's quiet, where craftspeople convene,
A humble lathe hums, a woodworker's scene.
They gather their tools, with a purpose in sight,
To craft pens of beauty, turning with might.

A block of fine wood, with its grain and its grace,
Whispers stories and secrets, a canvas to trace.
With chisel in hand and a steady, keen eye,
They shape it with care as the lathe spins, oh, my!

The shavings fly freely, like whispers in the wind,
As the pen takes its form, a new life to begin.
Each pass of the chisel, each stroke of the hand,
Brings forth a creation, a work truly grand.

The woodworker's fingers, so skilled and precise,
Reveal the pen's beauty, as though touched by ice.
They coax out its curves, its elegance untold,
A pen that's a treasure, more precious than gold.

The finish is applied, a luster so fine,
Enhancing the wood's grain, like a rare vintage wine.
The pen's body polished, a jewel in disguise,
Ready to capture thoughts, dreams, and the skies.

In the end, as the lathe's soft humming does cease,
The pen stands before us, a masterpiece, at peace.
It's a testament to patience, craftsmanship, and art,
A pen turned with love, a piece of the heart.

So, remember the pen turners, their passion and care,
As they shape the raw wood into something so rare.
With every stroke of the chisel, every turn of the lathe,
They create works of beauty, like waves on the waves.
Wow, that's really good.
 

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As an editor by trade, I have a keen interest in the development of AI. As with industrialization, AI will almost certainly change the world. Short-sighted companies and those less interested in quality will see AI as a way to lower costs via reduced human headcount. Fewer employees means fewer salaries to pay, fewer vacations to accommodate, fewer people to manage, and so forth. And in a sense, a certain reduction in headcount is probably inevitable.

However, for the foreseeable future, there will always be some things that will require a human being. Smart companies see AI as an opportunity to free humans up to do the things only they can do. Right now, I spend a significant amount of my time on document formatting, implementing company style, and similar "low-level" or "mindless" things. In some cases, my company has actually taken similar low-level tasks off my plate and assigned them to less-skilled workers, resulting in a net increase of employees. AI will, I imagine, do a similar thing, but without the net increase. This has allowed me to spend more of my time on higher-value revisions to my documents, making me a more valuable employee.

I think where we'll really see the effects of AI will be in salary growth, or lack thereof. Non-executive salaries have basically been stagnant for years when accounting for inflation, and I don't see AI helping that situation. I may now be able to spend more of my time on higher-value tasks, but that doesn't mean that my company will see me--monetarily, at least--as a more valuable employee.

In the end, the effects of AI will be more dependent on the ethics of the people and companies employing it than on AI itself. I wish that gave me some level of comfort, but I'm afraid I'm just jaded enough to think that companies (especially the larger ones) will continue with the bottom-line thinking that has dominated for the past 20+ years.
 
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