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heritagebob

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I am interested in expanding my capabilities from just turning pens, interested id getting into bottle stoppers, and have some questions: Are they difficult to do? What do I need to get to go from pens to stopper on my lathe? Any advice would be appreciated...
 
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For stainless steel stoppers I use a mandrel like Artisan Bottle Stopper Mandrel | Projects | Craft Supplies USA with a drawbar I made and a Turners Select 3/8" Threaded Tap | Projects | Craft Supplies USA as well. For silicone or cork I use a collet chuck though a pin chuck would work as well.

I personally only use stainless steel for metal bottoms as I find chrome to pit quickly. Stainless is more expensive a cheaper route is silicone or cork. I've purchased stainless from Ruth Nile and other vendors. I've been happy with them all.

Turning the stoppers is pretty quick with wood working with acrylics is of course more time consuming. Most of the time what I ran into was issues with the finishing process with pieces that I went a little crazy on designs. What you finish wood with I think is more of a personal choice. I've pretty much finished them with everything. CA, lacquer, poly, WTF, friction polish all work well.
 
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If you have a lathe and are practice in turning pens, moving to bottle stoppers should be simple.

There are many workable approaches, and every turner has his own preferences. Here are mine.

1. While you can do stoppers using a totally DIY approach, I prefer to purchase the actual stopper mechanism. I stainless steel for stoppers - in my opinion, the best are those sold by Ruth Niles. They come in a variety of forms - I prefer the design that has a 3/6"x16tip stud to screw into the turning. But I also make stoppers using the less expensive silicone sleeves that fit over dowels. I buy those from PSI, but there are other vendors.


2. I start by placing the blank between centers, turn to a cylinder, and put a tenon on what will eventually be the top end. I mount the blank in a scroll chuck. I use a spindle gouge to put a slight concave in the bottom - this concave needs to be about 1/16" deep - it's purpose is to recess the top of the metal/silicone into the turning so that the join between the stopper base and turning isn't visible from the side. This makes the finished product look a bit neater. It's also possible to create the same effect by drilling a rabbet with a forstner bit. Then, I drill a 5/16" hole in the center of that recess. I do the drilling on the lathe so that the hole is absolutely centered on the recess or rabbet. I use a 3/8"x16 plug tap to thread this hole. Finally, I sand the bottom and apply a coat of WOP to seal the bottom of the turning. The main objective is to prevent wine from seeping into the wood - red wine in particular could stain the turning.

3. Then, I remount the blank on a stopper mandrel. I purchased my mandrel from PSI, but there are other vendors (including Ruth Niles), and it's a simple matter to make one using a scrap of wood and a 3/8"x16tpi bolt. Then, I turn whatever shape it want. A key point is that while having a pointed top might look nice, a stopper with a pointed top isn't very practical - having a flat or rounded top makes it much easier to put the stopper into a bottle. Finally, I sand the turning and apply finish. Normally, my preferred finish is WOP because it produces a tough finish that looks nice and that is resistant to alcohol. However, I have made a few stoppers with captive rings, and to simplify the finishing process on those, I've used pure tung oil.

4. Finally, assemble the turned top and the base. With the studded-metal base, all that you have to do is screw the top onto the base. If the threads in the turning are punky, you can put a drop or two of thick CA, polyurethane glue, or epoxy to assure that the top won't come off. With the silicone sleeve/dowel design, the dowel is too large to fit naturally into the threaded hole - options include reaming out the hole in the turning (put a 3/8" bit in a hand drill and, while handholding the turning, enlarge the hole), threading the dowel using a 3/6"x16 die (doesn't work really well - DHMHIKT), or mounting the dowel in your lathe (using either a scroll chuck, Jacobs chuck or a collet chuck), and reducing the diameter to 5/16" with a skew or even sandpaper. I usually glue the dowel into the turning using PVA glue. Often, it is possible to remove the sleeve from the dowel, and in that case, I will typically apply a small bead of a silicone adhesive around the top of the sleeve to prevent wine from seeping past the sleeve and staining the wooden dowel.

Some people prefer to reinforce the threaded hole in the turning with thin CA glue, and after it cures, run the tap into the hole again to clean up the threads. I've done that, but I've come to the conclusion that its not necessary. The threads are used twice - once to mount the blank on the mandrel, and again to mount the turning on the threaded base. After the stopper has been assembled, it never needs to come apart again. My experience is that unless the wood is really soft (eg, spalted and then some), the effort required to reinforce the threads isn't necessary.
 
Ruth Niles (SS Niles website) is also an excellent turner. She has many of her bottle stoppers and other turnings in a gallery on her website.
Very interesting lady and extremely helpful. She will make sure you have the information you need for her products and your turnings.
gordon
 
I was talking to Ruth Sunday about bowl turning. Great lady. Previously mentioned, the stainless stoppers won't stain, chip or corrode. But the cork and silicone have their place too.

I bought Ruth's woodworker's starter kit which comes with a morse taper mandrel with a 3/8x16 screw for mounting your blank. To do it over again I would go with the PSI mandrel. The MT mandrel means adding a drawbar to the operation to ensure it doesn't work itself out.

One observation I have looking back is to think creative. I started with the idea of just wooden turned tops for wine bottles. Now I'm adapting all sorts of other items for different uses. Ruth offers different attachment options, screw-on and otherwise.

i.e. small snow globes, christmas ornament stoppers were big this year, use silicone stoppers with custom tops for refillable glass shampoo bottles, cabinet door knobs for the kitchen, antique lamp finials. Mix in some wood or acrylic turnings to use as a base or capped finial.

Google stopper images and visit Ruth's Gallery. Amazing stuff people are doing out there.

Niles stainless steel bottle stoppers
 
Ruth Niles is now selling colorwood bottle stopper and pendant blanks! :cool:
The bottle stopper starter set is a good deal. Quality products. Be sure to use a draw bar with a morse taper style stopper mandrel.
 
Ruth Niles is now selling colorwood bottle stopper and pendant blanks! :cool:
The bottle stopper starter set is a good deal. Quality products. Be sure to use a draw bar with a morse taper style stopper mandrel.
 
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