ed4copies
Local Chapter Manager
And the dog will "Bow"-wow at "Bo" Diddley.
Am I the only one
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PenMan1
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Well, Smitty, on my pitiful budget, I could give you a dollar for EVERY word...as that would be $1.
But, if you asked for $1 for EACH of those words.... It would take a very rich person to fulfill that wish.
This is a "strange" language we speak and seldom understand fully.
Tongue in cheek. Happy Holidays.
hmmmm
Some might say it would only take a lot of money if you cover "each AND every" word. On the other hand "each" is one of the two synonyms for "every" the other being "all". So substituting each for every does not really change the meaning of the sentence.
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PenMan1
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LOL!!!
FWIW: don't EVER tell your English neighbors that you are considering new carpet and you want their opinion on a "shag"! DAMHIKT
FWIW: don't EVER tell your English neighbors that you are considering new carpet and you want their opinion on a "shag"! DAMHIKT
ed4copies
Local Chapter Manager
If your English neighbor is an attractive female, sounds like an innocent start to a conversation, that could lead somewhere interesting!!
Smile
Man, that one has hung on for a long while. In 1966 and 1967 I spent some time in England related to work and that word use was in then....
Man, that one has hung on for a long while. In 1966 and 1967 I spent some time in England related to work and that word use was in then....
LOL!!!
FWIW: don't EVER tell your English neighbors that you are considering new carpet and you want their opinion on a "shag"! DAMHIKT
TellicoTurning
Member
I've been told by persons learning the English language that it's one of the hardest languages to master (maybe after Icelandic which is mostly unpronounceable) mostly because English has no structure. Most languages have a masculine/feminine structure and a defined sentence structure... English does not. It's a Germanic language, but it's not based on the Germanic structure.. go figure.
I've also heard that Chinese languages have 300 + characters in their alphabet but not that many words... tone of voice can change the meaning of a word in opposite directions or even in unrelated forms.. not speaking Chinese, can't say this with certainty.
Since I grew up speaking a form of English (Southern drawl) I never thought about it being hard to speak.. it has been a task to learn to use proper English and to not drop vowels or consonants.
I've also heard that Chinese languages have 300 + characters in their alphabet but not that many words... tone of voice can change the meaning of a word in opposite directions or even in unrelated forms.. not speaking Chinese, can't say this with certainty.
Since I grew up speaking a form of English (Southern drawl) I never thought about it being hard to speak.. it has been a task to learn to use proper English and to not drop vowels or consonants.
glen r
Member
As one who spent his working life writing allot of technical reports that had to be read and understood by everyone from Engineers and Architects to people that had no technical knowledge I learned one thing. To best get your message across you have to write using words with 4 letters or less in as much of your work as possible. This is very difficult to do but you have to put yourself in the person's shoes to whom you are writing the report and also consider others who will be reading the report. Once you get past that obstacle your information is concise and not offensive to anyone.
Some people can write in a way that their intent is clearly understood by everyone reading their work while others can never master that part of passing on information. Feeling offended by what someone who you do not know has written is human nature but one must, like others have stated, have a thick skin and know that what is written is not directed at you personally.
I have dealt with Smitty37 a number of times and never felt offended by any of our written interactions, but that's only my opinion. It appears that others feel different and that too is their right.
Some people can write in a way that their intent is clearly understood by everyone reading their work while others can never master that part of passing on information. Feeling offended by what someone who you do not know has written is human nature but one must, like others have stated, have a thick skin and know that what is written is not directed at you personally.
I have dealt with Smitty37 a number of times and never felt offended by any of our written interactions, but that's only my opinion. It appears that others feel different and that too is their right.
Hubert H
Member
Wow!
Since I made my living doing public speaking and writing before retirement - now I work part-time at a school - I have found this very interesting. One of the things not discussed is how a person responds to the response given to one of the writings they send out. Is it possible they are reading more or less into the response than the responding writer intended?
Since I made my living doing public speaking and writing before retirement - now I work part-time at a school - I have found this very interesting. One of the things not discussed is how a person responds to the response given to one of the writings they send out. Is it possible they are reading more or less into the response than the responding writer intended?
Monty
Group Buy Coordinator
To paraphrase -
"I know that you believe that you understood what you think I wrote, but I am not sure you realize that what you read is not what I meant."
"I know that you believe that you understood what you think I wrote, but I am not sure you realize that what you read is not what I meant."
Stevem
Member
FWIW
In college there is a separate writing class after ENG 101, 102, and 103 that is called Tech Report Writing. Describing a technical "thing" is a lot different than writing a story.
There is a "game" they play to highlight the difference. Have a person with some sort of a drawing surface, blackboard, white board, pad of paper so they can draw. Give another person a picture unseen by the first and have them describe the picture without naming a particular shape, Can't say square, circle, rectangle, etc. When the results of the directions are seen it can get real humorous. The picture was so simple, until you tried to describe it. To each, words mean what WE want them to mean. Not what others "think" they mean.
Tone in voice can somewhat be added to a forum input with the emotions icons. :bye:
In college there is a separate writing class after ENG 101, 102, and 103 that is called Tech Report Writing. Describing a technical "thing" is a lot different than writing a story.
There is a "game" they play to highlight the difference. Have a person with some sort of a drawing surface, blackboard, white board, pad of paper so they can draw. Give another person a picture unseen by the first and have them describe the picture without naming a particular shape, Can't say square, circle, rectangle, etc. When the results of the directions are seen it can get real humorous. The picture was so simple, until you tried to describe it. To each, words mean what WE want them to mean. Not what others "think" they mean.
Tone in voice can somewhat be added to a forum input with the emotions icons. :bye:
leestoresund
Member
One thing I have learned from this thread is that the longer responses, in general, provide the best information.
So it would appear that adding a few words or another sentence or two (or both) would go a long way to getting your real point across.
For some people who are taciturn that could be a problem.
But then everyone else would lose the opportunity to show others how really smart WE are.
So it would appear that adding a few words or another sentence or two (or both) would go a long way to getting your real point across.
For some people who are taciturn that could be a problem.
But then everyone else would lose the opportunity to show others how really smart WE are.
a little
In my opinion there in lies the problem.
In the written word there are two parties - the writer and the reader.
The writer is attempting to convey something and chooses words to do it.
The reader needs to decipher those words.
Because the writer is often writing for many possible readers, but can choose only one way (for a single writing) to write the thought, I think it is incumbent on the reader to avoid "reading in" things not specifically stated and "reading out" things that are. To do otherwise causes the reader to replace the thoughts of the writer with their own.
To some degree it can, but most of the time I think they are only useful to indicate humor.
In my opinion there in lies the problem.
In the written word there are two parties - the writer and the reader.
The writer is attempting to convey something and chooses words to do it.
The reader needs to decipher those words.
Because the writer is often writing for many possible readers, but can choose only one way (for a single writing) to write the thought, I think it is incumbent on the reader to avoid "reading in" things not specifically stated and "reading out" things that are. To do otherwise causes the reader to replace the thoughts of the writer with their own.