Our pens have gone off to Gary, except for the ones that went to a local veterans' organization. I was disappointed that the local VA hospital would not let us come down and give pens to the vets. But it IS the Phoenix VA....enough said. I'm glad I am not dependent on them for medical care. We are both vets but don't use the local VA hospital because it has such a bad rep. We pay for medicare and private medicare supplemental insurance.