2012 Best of IAP Contest - Discussion Thread
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Hi Jeff,
Is this contest open to all? ( Will sponsor ship mags to Int member etc )
If so, can International entrants pay by Paypal?
Time to dust of the cobwebs in the Rat Cave:biggrin:
Thanks
Is this contest open to all? ( Will sponsor ship mags to Int member etc )
If so, can International entrants pay by Paypal?
Time to dust of the cobwebs in the Rat Cave:biggrin:
Thanks
I think on the first point, probably yes, but I'll check to make sure. We are, after all, an international organization!
On the second point, I'll pass the question on to [profile]Scott[/profile] as he's handling the fees.
I would suggest that in the segmenting class no cnc produced parts or pens. This levels the field and focuses on hand work skills rather than programming. In the open class no problem.
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I think Scott would certainly consider that for next year. The rules were hashed out between the judges and sponsors and are likely not going to change this year other than for clarifications. I agree that it's a good idea, though! I'll make sure Scott sees this post.
Since no one has submitted a pen yet, this rule would only effect where the pen was submitted to. It might affect someone who wouldnt submit a pen because "I cant compete with a cnc mill or lathe"
brownsfn2
Member
Can't wait to see all of the awesome submissions!! Good luck everyone!
Ed McDonnell
Member
That's a slippery slope.
A computer controlled tool is just a tool. The second through the billionth of something made (if there is ever more than the first) will involve a lot less work than the first, but the first of anything involves quite a bit of hand usage in the creation. Perhaps more than not using a computer controlled tool. But the point is that a CNC type tool is still just a tool.
If the intent is to truly level the field for production of contest entries, then should expensive ultra accurate micro saws, metal lathes, kilns, foundry equipment, various artist made jigs and other stuff that are not owned by the majority be fair game for elimination as well?
Maybe there should there be a category with a defined allowed minimalist set of tools?
Ed
edstreet
Member
Actually you CAN compete with a cnc machine, even laser cutting machines. The key point is I am not going there in this thread.
edstreet
Member
Is group makers excluded from the contest?
Scott
Member
Welcome to the Best of IAP Contest for 2012!
There have been some questions. Let me try to answer them.
The contest is open to all. We are not excluding anyone.
I cannot speak for Pen World, but if they can't do the subscription for some reason, we will make sure an alternate prize is awarded.
As for PayPal, let me think about it.
Yes, you can make your pens now. Better yet, make them yesterday. Read the rules!
The contest is designed for individual entrants.
Scott.
There have been some questions. Let me try to answer them.
The contest is open to all. We are not excluding anyone.
I cannot speak for Pen World, but if they can't do the subscription for some reason, we will make sure an alternate prize is awarded.
As for PayPal, let me think about it.
Yes, you can make your pens now. Better yet, make them yesterday. Read the rules!
The contest is designed for individual entrants.
Scott.
edstreet
Member
Guess that excludes me.
Scott,
I'd gladly send a cheque instead of Paypal, but hardly anyone even has a cheque book in the UK anymore. I stopped using them several years ago. Not sure about other countries. I'd pay a bit more to cover Paypal charges if needed. :biggrin:
If Pen World can't / won't do an International subscription, then maybe they should change their name to Pen USA.:wink:
Skippy - I'll send a check for you if necessary. I'll even scan the magazine for you when I win.
Thanks Bruce, you're all heart !!!:tongue:
Deluded, but kind:biggrin:
Deluded, but kind:biggrin:
Hey I would have made the same offer! I would have even mentioned you in my acceptance speech!
Dalecamino
Local Chapter Leader
Sounds like a few are celebrating a bit early. :biggrin: Don't forget, I'm in this too :tongue::biggrin:
Scott
Member
I guess you all can go back to calling it Pen World Magazine! I just heard back from Laura, the Editor, and she said they would honor the subscription prize regardless of where you live.
Now you need to hold up your end of things and make some pens that might win!
Scott.
Now you need to hold up your end of things and make some pens that might win!
Scott.
Scott
Member
Why don't you send me a PM that explains your situation, and I can see if it fits any of our categories.
Scott.
edstreet
Member
NO need for a PM, this has already been public and no reason to exclude others in this and only make the problem worse.
Group entries. Say I get 2,3,4,5+ people together each a very unique and talented craftsman which does one section of the pen. We group together to create one pen of uniqueness that has never been done before in the pen world. The submitted entries would be for every one that worked on the pen, i.e. group entry.
This would not fit into any areas of the contest and it would clearly upstage all other entries. This is a pet project I have been toying with for about 3 years now.
Ed
Many thanks Scott ( and Laura too of course :biggrin: )
I like to compete, but I'm not too fussed about winning. I get the biggest kick by taking the mick out of my fellow entrants.
I will try and enter at least two catagories though. :wink:
Thanks again
Steven
Scott
Member
Thanks Steven! I'm looking forward to seeing them.
edstreet, collaborations have been around before, and some great pens have come from the effort. If enough people were to express an interest we could look at a collaborative category for a future contest. Keep your eyes open during the Bash in February.
Scott.
edstreet, collaborations have been around before, and some great pens have come from the effort. If enough people were to express an interest we could look at a collaborative category for a future contest. Keep your eyes open during the Bash in February.
Scott.
firewhatfire
Member
Can the submitted pen be evaluated for the Pen Makers Guild at the same time, If the appropriate paperwork is filled out
I think the last years overall winner was.
I think the last years overall winner was.
Im pretty sure it can be. I will check with my sources.....
Yes the answer is yes.
Scott
Member
I was under the impression that submission to the Guild required actually sending the entry pen to the Guild for evaluation. If this is the case, it would be impossible to enter this contest and submit the pen to the Guild at the same time.
I think it would be good to submit the pen to the Guild at the end of the contest. And since one of the judges for the contest is also with the Guild, we might even be able to arrange for him to retain the pen for evaluation by the Guild Masters. I could talk to Kurt about that, or he might just jump in here.
If you do want to arrange something like this you would need to arrange it with Kurt and myself. I normally wouldn't get involved, but the entries for the contest are sent to the judges without any identifying information as to who the maker is. So if we arrange for Kurt to keep the pen, he wouldn't be able to know which one to keep until after the results of the contest were announced.
It just seems that it would be neater to return the pens after the judging, and then you could submit to the Guild.
Thoughts?
Scott.
firewhatfire
Member
I appreciate the replies, considering the pen I am wanting to build is only a idea in my head. I may be only inquiring for others whom may have wondered. I have learned so much from doing and since last years attempt that it makes me want to tell everyone on the board they should attempt at least 1 category.
Phil
Phil
Glenn McCullough
Member
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Scott,
I'd gladly send a cheque instead of Paypal, but hardly anyone even has a cheque book in the UK anymore. I stopped using them several years ago. Not sure about other countries. I'd pay a bit more to cover Paypal charges if needed. :biggrin:
If Pen World can't / won't do an International subscription, then maybe they should change their name to Pen USA.:wink:[/QUOTE]
LoOkit skippy...bein snippy!!!
Scott,
I'd gladly send a cheque instead of Paypal, but hardly anyone even has a cheque book in the UK anymore. I stopped using them several years ago. Not sure about other countries. I'd pay a bit more to cover Paypal charges if needed. :biggrin:
If Pen World can't / won't do an International subscription, then maybe they should change their name to Pen USA.:wink:[/QUOTE]
LoOkit skippy...bein snippy!!!
Glenn McCullough
Member
This pen would be entered in the Collaborative Challenge. that does not mean you couldn't submit an article to PW on it's creation, perhapse they would publish an article.
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firewhatfire
Member
If a pen is sent in at the beginning of the Contest will it be held until the end, Or will it be sent on to the judges and returned?
Scott
Member
Sorry, I was on vacation when you asked this question. Yes, all the entries are held until the end of the entry period, and are then sent around to the judges together. Finally they are sent back to me and I return them to everyone.
The entry form is up, and the entry period is open! Start sending them in!
Scott.
Kaspar
Member
Thanks for extending the deadline. I've spent the last week moving to new digs, and I wasn't sure I'd be up to getting one done in time, but now, I will definitely try to enter.
Buzzzz4
Member
Yippeee! I got one done and only had to remake part of it once after it flew off the buffing wheel and crashed into the wall!
MartinPens
Member
I got my entries in the mail. That was fun! Whatever the outcome. : )
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Ed McDonnell
Member
For fountain pens, should they be sent inked or dry? I'm guessing dry which leads me to ask - If dry, should they have an empty converter installed, a cartridge in the barrel (but not installed) or ???? If they will be dip tested, should a small bottle of ink be sent along with the pen?
Obviously, this is the first time I've done an IAP contest. I tried searching, but I didn't find an answer.
Ed
Obviously, this is the first time I've done an IAP contest. I tried searching, but I didn't find an answer.
Ed
Buzzzz4
Member
Last year they were dip tested. It was not necessary to send ink.
Scott
Member
Yay! I received the first entries! Thanks Martin!
Now, where's all the rest?
Yes, send the fountain pens dry, and if the judges want to try them they can dip them. I'm sure they can rummage up some ink somehow!
Scott.
Now, where's all the rest?
Yes, send the fountain pens dry, and if the judges want to try them they can dip them. I'm sure they can rummage up some ink somehow!
Scott.
Coming - be patient...Yay! I received the first entries! Thanks Martin!
Now, where's all the rest?
Scott.
Buzzzz4
Member
Hitting the mail in the morning... Definitely pushed my boundaries with this one. Hope they like it.
Brooks803
Member
Well I missed last year's contest with a broken thumb...now I just had back surgery....something tells me I won't be making it again this year. Which really bums me out bc I had some really killer ideas that I wanted to try!
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Dalecamino
Local Chapter Leader
I can't believe it's been almost a year. But, even with the extension, I won't be entering this time. Should take some of the pressure off you guys.:biggrin: Looking forward to seeing the entries though.