...unsure if I like em' or not was as of yet, I am happy how it turned out. I used a blank from an IAP member "Swearinger"?? or something like that, some time ago. I added the segment just to dress it up a bit more, .016 Aluminum. I shot it with a point and click, still too cold for my usual set-up ,although today it was pretty nice! I'll get a better taste of how the sales will be on these type of pens after this week-end at the Nevada Women's Expo. Thanks and be well.......Jan