Berea now has computer circuit board blank kits

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Just shot the bug on my screen, now I can't see. I think I will continue to buy mine from Bruce119, I like supporting the people on the site. Brea is good but his sound like a copy cat type thing.
 
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Screw Berea! There's a ton of other things they could have taken up without ripping off someone's creation.

No Bruce, no boards! N Bruce, no boards!
 

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Screw Berea! There's a ton of other things they could have taken up without ripping off someone's creation.

No Bruce, no boards! N Bruce, no boards!

Berea came out with the circuit board blank kits, that is their right to do so, they are not ripping off a design, they see a product that can make money and they are selling itself. The person on here that makes them should be flattered that they got copied by a pen company

For example; it is like telling HP that they cannot sell computers cause they ripped off Dell's Tower Design.

It is about competition, if someone can sell it for a lower price. Why not.

I am all for the little guy to come out ahead, if he sells his blanks for a lower price, he has nothing to worry about.
 

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I am with Skye on this one.It looks to me like a copy cat if I ever saw one.So let me get this right,the guys on here spend countless hours designing a coool pen and then someone,a person that is an idea thief browses the IAP,steals the idea and then tries to sell it back to us.Am I missing something?I think we are going to have to copyright every idea.When are they going to offer the cat poop blank?I would'nt buy it no matter how cheap.If I want the original I know where to get it and that is Bruce here on IAP.

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I am with Skye on this one.It looks to me like a copy cat if I ever saw one.So let me get this right,the guys on here spend countless hours designing a coool pen and then someone,a person that is an idea thief browses the IAP,steals the idea and then tries to sell it back to us.Am I missing something?I think we are going to have to copyright every idea.When are they going to offer the cat poop blank?I would'nt buy it no matter how cheap.If I want the original I know where to get it and that is Bruce here on IAP.

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, i would prefer buying from the original, but no matter what you do, People are going to take ideas and designs and try to make money from this. Look at computer makers, Car companies, Electronic companies....The list goes on and on. But for some people, when it comes to this economy, people are trying to save a buck, this is a route they might go.

Like i said before, I would like to buy from the smaller guy, cause most of the time you get customer service. but most people now a days are looking to save money. So they go with what makes sense to them.

I dont like when people take ideas, but welcome to capitalism
 

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Aint that a bunch a bullshot!!!

Whats next the Cactus, Stained Glass, they already took the cartridge and did a poor job at it. This may also be a lame attempt at a copy-cat product. I havent seen mass marketed Worthless wood??? Is that too much work???

Im off my soap box now........
 

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Lets lynch 'em and then ask questions. Yeeee ha!:biggrin:

A while back, I thought Bruce said something about working on a deal, but he didn't want to go into things too much. This may be the deal he was working on.
 
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Here we go again. Everyone dog pile on Berea. I suppose this is where we all take sides for or against and pledge our undying allegiance to one or the other. This kind of thing is getting really old. Don't even say, "Well, than why did you post in this thread?" or "You should take your own advice" or "You don't have to read it if you don't want to" because I'm not gonna hear it. We're all associated with this board and when one, some or all do something stupid, like jump to such an ignorant conclusion, it reflects on all of us. My apologies to the original poster, but this board is no place for a witch hunt.
 

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Here we go again. Everyone dog pile on Berea. I suppose this is where we all take sides for or against and pledge our undying allegiance to one or the other. This kind of thing is getting really old. Don't even say, "Well, than why did you post in this thread?" or "You should take your own advice" or "You don't have to read it if you don't want to" because I'm not gonna hear it. We're all associated with this board and when one, some or all do something stupid, like jump to such an ignorant conclusion, it reflects on all of us. My apologies to the original poster, but this board is no place for a witch hunt.
The original posting actually looks pretty inocent, just letting everyone know that there is a new product at Berea. But then again, I am too busy rampaging and pillaging to read clearly anyways. :)
 

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Stop and think now. If Bruce sold the idea to them why is he charging us almost twice as much????

I just posted a little tidbit in Casual Conversation about Ruth Niles bottle stoppers being ripped off and she has a patten on them. The guy went to Canada to make them to bypass the patent laws. Did someone say Scruples???
 

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I think people jump the gun before they have to facts, lets see what happens

What.... IAP members jump the gun? Never! :wink:

Man, it is SO easy to get a dogpile going around here and it is hilarious to watch so many make such bold statements without having a clue as to what the facts are.

For anyone interested in a fact.... I went back and read Bruce's original post made back in May 2008 where he first introduced his circuit board pen and he said in part...
Well it's been a wile since I posted a picture. This my latest creation. I can't claim the idea I saw a picture somewhere of a letter opener. I don't remember who it was or can I find it again to give them credit. .....
Comments, criticism, opinions, suggestions all welcome.
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So, it looks like someone else had developed a method of casting a circuit board in resin before Bruce... perhaps it was THAT person who got with Berea, wouldn't that be a hoot!

The simple fact is that we just don't know any of the facts but hey, don't let the lack of any factual data get in the way of a good lynching!

Mob mentality.... you gotta love it! :tongue:
 

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Stop and think now. If Bruce sold the idea to them why is he charging us almost twice as much????

I just posted a little tidbit in Casual Conversation about Ruth Niles bottle stoppers being ripped off and she has a patten on them. The guy went to Canada to make them to bypass the patent laws. Did someone say Scruples???


Patents are a joke! They are worthless and a waste of money. There is no need to go to Canada to get around them. If you don't want an idea, design, or anything else copied, you have to keep it to yourself and never let another person know about it. If there is money to be made, it will be copied.
 

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All you folks who are doing a dogpile on berea hold on a second , oobak just posted about a rabbit he wants to get rid of ......DOGPILE ON THE RABBIT DOGPILE ON THE RABBIT :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

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I didn't have a clue

Maybe Bruce was in on it. Wait for the facts.

Well I was waiting for this to hit it was on his site yesterday. And NO I was not in on it. I was approached by Berea & A.S. But the way I do it with a REAL circuit board out of a REAL computer take a LOT of time I can only make about 25 a week and that is a full long hard week.

Berea contacted me the day before it was released and told me out of courtesy. Hmmmm I figured someone would do this they get our ideas and they have the money backing to produce them.

I mite have an opportunity as a reseller to offer these. He is sending me a kit I need to see it. These are built for the Sierra Vista ONLY and mass produced in one style as far as I know.

I am sure most will not care if it is one style and not from a real computer. Mine are made from recycled real computer boards.

Anyway I don't want to get into a bad mouthing thing I'm still a little shaken by it. I am just a disabled guy doing this for fun just trying to make ends meet.

When I get the kit I will report on what I think the quality is. Then I maybe be able to offer them as a group buy at a slightly reduced price if there is enough interest.

Thank you everyone for your support.
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Screw Berea! There's a ton of other things they could have taken up without ripping off someone's creation.

No Bruce, no boards! N Bruce, no boards!

Thank you Skye I really appreciate the support. I put my heart and sole into these things. They are made the old fashion way. With blood sweat & tears. Not with big bucks and mass production. Mine are truly one of a kind.

Bruce
 

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Bruce

Are you saying these are decals??? They will all look like the one pictured???? Will wait for your thoughts. Sorry to hear about this.
 

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So, it looks like someone else had developed a method of casting a circuit board in resin before Bruce... perhaps it was THAT person who got with Berea, wouldn't that be a hoot!

I was approached by Berea & A.S.

Well, that pretty much shoots that theory down, hate to burst your bubble.

I'd say the fact they approaced Bruce pretty much nails down the fact that they got the idea by seeing one of his blanks. The bullet pens at PS, the circuit boards at Berea, wonder what's next.

I like the circuit board pens, I'd like to make one but there's no way in hell I'm buying one from anyone but Bruce, even if it limits my ability to build one. Some people will claim that all is fail in capitalism and war, but just because it's a capitalist society does not negate respect or giving credit where credit is due.

There's two types of people in the world, I know which I am.
 

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I buy pen kits from Brea and AS and like their service. BUT on this I am willing to pay more for the real thing. I also like the idea of supporting some one who is disabled and trying to make it on his own, no pity, just support. I will alway try to buy from member at IAP if at all possible and still use the comercial vendors as well. You supply a niche item which up until now, no one else did, your idea you should prosper from it. Let me know when you next batch is ready.
 

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Are you saying these are decals??? They will all look like the one pictured???? Will wait for your thoughts. Sorry to hear about this.

From what their website says, "This pen kit is made using a real, but non-functional circuit board." so I'm assuming it's a real circuit board with real circuitry in it, but if it were in it's non-pen state it would not be functional because it's just made to look like a functional board.
 

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Don't ever try to put the number 3 or 24 or 48 amongst others on your race car. If you do it better be a different style and color. The have gone after people for copying these numbers as the color, style and shape are trademarked. Number 8 is probably the same.
 
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Standard Sierra bushings are 20A---Sierra Vista bushings are 70A. These 50A bushings are only used on pens w/pre-fitted tubes--the circuit board pen, and the "tropical series" pens (white coconut, brown coconut, abalone, and mother of pearl>)
 

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Okay, Now I'll make a comment... Berea owes you some kind of numeration for the idea if nothing else. That really ticks me off and it takes a lot to do so! I'm writing a letter to Berea and I beseech others here to do like wise.
 

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Bruce

Are you saying these are decals??? They will all look like the one pictured???? Will wait for your thoughts. Sorry to hear about this.

Please don't put words in my mouth I did NOT say they were decals or paper. I am fairly sure they were produced with the same process a real circuit board is produced(I don't know). I just said mine are made from real boards out of real working computers. Circuit boards are just laminated layers of fiber all you need is that last layer. That's the secret I don't mind telling it now. Now to get that last layer is all the work. Now if I had some big bucks and a circuit board manufacture connection I could have come up with something on a large scale. But I am not big business nor do I have the desire I just had the ideas. Too bad I could not follow through or even get credit.

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I will still buy kits from Brea and AS and will use Bruce's blanks to make the pens. I wonder what Brea's costs are to have them made.
 
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