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I am looking to install a couple outdoor security cameras. Battery operated. Do not want to run wires. Looking for recommendations for good quality and long battery life. I do not have any experience in home cameras so any info would be helpful. Being I just got a smart phone I should be able to get app to be able to see on phone. What are some do's and dont's and what to look for. What are the better brands and why. I probably will upgrade to a ring doorbell or some version of this as well. Not sure on that. If I can place cameras in a good place I would not need that. While we are asking, any info on the doorbell camera thing too would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
 
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Would 100% absolutely not recommend any wireless battery operated cameras. 1000x better off going to Costco or Sam's and buying their 4 camera or whatever wired kit.
 
I am looking to install a couple outdoor security cameras. Battery operated. Do not want to run wires. Looking for recommendations for good quality and long battery life. I do not have any experience in home cameras so any info would be helpful. Being I just got a smart phone I should be able to get app to be able to see on phone. What are some do's and dont's and what to look for. What are the better brands and why. I probably will upgrade to a ring doorbell or some version of this as well. Not sure on that. If I can place cameras in a good place I would not need that. While we are asking, any info on the doorbell camera thing too would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
John - I had a battery driven one in the past and really didn't like it (battery failures, bad resolution, interference issues), but you might have reasons for it. I upgraded to a 4K wired system with powered cameras from Night Owl Security that I bought at Costco. It came with pre-terminated video and power cables, five easy to mount cameras and a central 2 TB DVR for recording. It plays back through my phone or computer. The video resolution is way better than the battery units, and to keep it running in a power failure, I added a battery backup unit so everything stays up for a good number of hours if needed.

My town also requires a permit if it is to be remotely monitored. They also charge an annual fee for 'false alarm prevention' that I got around by simply enabling remote notifications to my phone instead. No annual fees unless you opt into something.

Night Owl also sells wireless units, so maybe might be worth a look https://nightowlsp.com/collections/nvr-sale .

Kevin
 
We've been happy with our battery outdoor Blink cameras but we understand the limitations. Original batteries are 2 years old this week. All have 2 way audio comms. They also use the same interface as Blink doorbell IIRC. Half price if you wait for Amazon prime days.
 
Go to a sporting goods store and get a trail camera. Odd that NJ requires a permit for remote access. Why?
MY BIL had a Ring doorbell that was accessed on his smart phone.
 
Go to a sporting goods store and get a trail camera. Odd that NJ requires a permit for remote access. Why?
MY BIL had a Ring doorbell that was accessed on his smart phone.
I suspect the reference to permitting was for professional / third party monitoring by a security company. False alarms drive police departments crazy.
 
I've had really good luck with WYZE brand. Inexpensive, easy to setup and if you load a micro SD card you don't have to pay for cloud storage. With a 30Gig card I get about a week before it overwrites.
 
Hey, John - I have used wired and wireless versions of the Reolink line for about 4-5 years, now. This link is for one of their newer versions that is battery powered and has a solar panel for charging. It works quite well for outdoors, has an amazing battery life and is quite quick responding to anomalies in the field of view while tracking the motion. I will replace a couple of other outdoor cameras with more of these.
 
Wow great to see all these replys. Gives me things to think about and to do some homework on. Will say this wired cameras are out. Back in my younger days I wanted to do that but no way am I able to crawl around in the attic any more. Will not have company do it. I have never had cameras for well over 40 years. It was just something I am thinking about because I am just about done with my upgrade of my house. next year will be last project outside of painting all the rooms. and that is landscaping. I live in a very safe neighborhood. The neighbors have their own cameras so I always could check with them if need be. Throwing a couple battery ones up would be a simple job so that is the way I want to go. Thanks.
 
I just bought a set of 3 Tapo cameras with solar chargers. Installed a micro chip so no monthly fees or cloud storage costs. I've been extremely happy with them so far. Mounts with small screws and they swivel to position them where you want them.
 
I just bought a set of 3 Tapo cameras with solar chargers. Installed a micro chip so no monthly fees or cloud storage costs. I've been extremely happy with them so far. Mounts with small screws and they swivel to position them where you want them.
Do you have a link of chip and cameras. ? Thanks.
 
I should have asked also how is everyone recording and saving? Also for how long? I am guessing not needed to store too long unless something happens or else it is basically dead air space. Could you hook a DVR to these battery operated cameras somehow. ??
 
I installed an outdoor security camera to monitor out driveway - we don't have any windows that look out over the driveway, so someone could pull in and park and we would never know. Also did a doorbell camera and a 'smart receptacle'. I chose the GEENI brand because it does not require batteries and offers off-line storage.

The security camera is mounted outside the garage, and powered from a wall wart that is plugged into a receptacle inside the garage - with the wire feeding through a hole in the garage wall such that it is not visible from outside. I can see the wire inside the garage, but its pretty high up in the air so that it doesn't interfere with anything. The camera has a micro-SD card that it records to, and there is an app on my phone that I can use to monitor what it see. There is an option for cloud storage, but that entails a subscription fee that I'm too cheap to pay. Obviously, the camera has to be within range of the house WiFI. In my case, I save until the 64GB SD card is full and then overwrite - if something is captured that I need to keep for longer, I can download a video capture and save it on my phone or computer.

Overall, the installation experience was OK - the camera initially didn't work, and the manufacturer seemed to be more focused on dragging out the process rather than resolving that issue. Fortunately, I bought it from A------e and they very quickly arranged for a return and replacement. Once I got past that initial problem, it worked fine. We've had it for about four years at this point.

One thing I did find it that having the camera and its app generate a 'notification' on my phone every time the camera detected motion was NOT a good idea. There can be a lot of false notifications - leaves blowing around in the Fall, or even a spider web over the camera that flutters around in the breeze, and having my phone wake up and alarm every few minutes overnight was intolerable.

The one other nuisance is that the camera system is designed for use with Apple or Andoid mobile devices. I wanted to also be able to monitor it from my Windows computer, and to do that I had to install an 'Android emulator' app. That app was designed primarily to support games, and things like cameras are only an afterthought so its a bit of a PITA to use.

I also did a doorbell camera that is powered from the doorbell transformer and wiring. No particular issue with installation other than that it took several tries to get the software set up and running. I did experience a failure of the SD card, but I think that was attributable to the card rather than to the camera.

I was going to add a second security camera to monitor our basement Bilco door. I bought the camera (same brand as the security and doorbell cams) and tried to set it up - I installed the SD card, but the camera wouldn't recognize it, and I couldn't get the card back out of the camera. So it went back to the store.

Finally, I also picked up a 'smart receptacle' in the same product line (ie, that uses the same phone app). It was easy to set up and has worked just fine.

Bottom line - I'm glad I did it, and I would like to do more. The equipment brand I chose is OK, but I did have both good and bad experiences so I would concluded that their quality control is spotty.
 
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I have owned and still own most versions on the Arlo line of cameras (bought them when Costco has them on sale) for close to 7 years. I pay 2.99 a month or something like that have unlimited storage of of image and videos. Their support is very good. Setting up routines is a little confusing if that is something that you want to do (but theitr support will do it for you). I own about 12, 4 of which are in my MIL's memory care room. They run continously. The battery life is about 2 months, but that is for continous use (when they detect motion). Some models require their hub station. Their Essential line does not require a hub station, just an internet connection. The other 8 or 9 units inside and out of my home. They are not a replacement for a security system (and rely on one's WiFi connection). I do have a wired Ring door bell (I didn't know that Arlo made a doorbell camera). I am sure there are as-good or better models out there. I just started with Arlo because Costco has sales and the double warranty.

I live in a very safe area/private area, but was contemplating a wired POE (power over ethernet system). However, I would pay someone to install it. A few strategically placed Sigs and Glocks also give me piece of mind. I do have a central station alarm too (I'm in GA, but can't take the NYC'er out of me when it comes to safety). Many good options out there - they just all rely on WiFi.
 
I suspect the reference to permitting was for professional / third party monitoring by a security company. False alarms drive police departments crazy.
Yep. If your alarm or camera has a remote monitoring station contract, you need the permit and the yearly 'False Alarm' coverage. Self monitoring has no fee or permit requirements.

Someone also mentioned false 'notifications' - and yes, this is a problem as most of the 4K cameras with an infra-red light for night vision 'see' the wind, which triggers a false notification and recording on the system DVR. My camera allows notification filtering by a few categories - human, animal, specific areas in the frame, motion (any type), vehicles. You can set the size of these filters in the frame, and use multiple filters at once. The wind is a constant problem where I live, so I put some cameras in highly shielded locations out of the wind for my most critical monitoring points.

I live in an area of seasonal rentals - lots of different people every week during the summer season, all intent on partying their butts off, as THEY ARE ON vacation (along with their brains!!!). Lots of stupid stuff happens, so most all of my neighbors have cameras as well to monitor their property. The system has come in handy a few times in the past.

@jttheclockman - totally understand regarding using wifi due to your reasons. My only suggestion is to insure your home wifi router is in a good place for the connection to all the cameras. You need a pretty decent signal to allow the wifi camera to transmit the video to your home network. If your home network also allows a guest network to be set up, you might consider using it only for the camera system. Wifi is a good alternative as long as you understand the limits and are good with them. Cameras with an attached solar charging panel might be another good option to reduce battery usage and outages. Some video is definitely better than no video, but it's sometimes really frustrating!

Kevin
 
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Had motion sensor light over the driveway. Kept tripping until we found it was a spider crawling across the sensor! Bought a solar powered motion sensor light from Harbor Freight. Works good.
 
Had motion sensor light over the driveway. Kept tripping until we found it was a spider crawling across the sensor! Bought a solar powered motion sensor light from Harbor Freight. Works good.
i had a similiar issue with camera over the front door. My US flag was blowing into it. LOL
 
We have been very happy with the 5 Blink outdoor wireless cameras. Front door, back door, driveway, front of shop and back of shop. 2-3 year AA lithium battery life. You can easily block out things such as waving bushes, the street and such. It stores clips in the app for 30 days free or you can pay a minimal amount for cloud storage. You can mark which cameras that you want notifications from. Easy set up for cell phones and my wife has it on her office computer. Oh yes, very economical. Just saying……..Smokey😎😃
 
We have been very happy with the 5 Blink outdoor wireless cameras. Front door, back door, driveway, front of shop and back of shop. 2-3 year AA lithium battery life. You can easily block out things such as waving bushes, the street and such. It stores clips in the app for 30 days free or you can pay a minimal amount for cloud storage. You can mark which cameras that you want notifications from. Easy set up for cell phones and my wife has it on her office computer. Oh yes, very economical. Just saying……..Smokey😎😃
I am hearing alot of good things about those cameras. May have to look into them.Thanks.
 
Hi John
I have have Eufy brand (Anker) set up for almost two years and it works well. I have two solar powered cameras watching the backyard, a wired cam watching the drive way and a doorbell cam. The doorbell cam has two cameras one for people, the other faces down to see packages. The system was easy to set up on wi fi. the software is easy to use. I have a storage system too called "Home base". No subscription fees.

We get notifications on our phones and watches. It also has a live view feature.
 
Hi John
I have have Eufy brand (Anker) set up for almost two years and it works well. I have two solar powered cameras watching the backyard, a wired cam watching the drive way and a doorbell cam. The doorbell cam has two cameras one for people, the other faces down to see packages. The system was easy to set up on wi fi. the software is easy to use. I have a storage system too called "Home base". No subscription fees.

We get notifications on our phones and watches. It also has a live view feature.
Wow more to check out. I will be busy. At least I am hearing that battery option is not that bad of an idea. That is what I am wanting to use. Simple and easy install just to get some coverage. More for damage than theft. Nothing valuable in my house. Maybe my pen collection. ;)
 
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