sorcerertd
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Has anyone heard from Mal? Haven't seen him around here for a bit and he's usually very active. Hope all is well.
Usually there is a last seen line if you hover over the name under the join date. But not sure if that is a timed thing and disappears after a certain time.
I've wondered about the accuracy of that, but I did send him a message a couple days ago and haven't heard back yet.Usually there is a last seen line if you hover over the name under the join date. But not sure if that is a timed thing and disappears after a certain time.
Good to hear. When people you are used to seeing daily go missing it does get noticed. You guys are what really make this work for the rest of us.Mal is fine. I exchanged messages with him.
Good to hear you are ok Mal.Still kickin' !!! No excuses for the long absence ! Except that I haven't made any pens for a fairly long while.
But I missed all you guys so will try to pop in once in a while just to say "nothing" !
Thanks for the expressions of concern and interest !
One thing to ask . . . anyone made any of the Sierra Diverse pens ?
I made a couple of them quite a long time ago and recently found them in my "discard stash".
Discovered they are "double twist" action . . . and I can't stand that action and now remember why I "discarded" them.
"Double twist" (for those who may not know) means, for example, if you twist clockwise to retract the refill and keep twisting in that direction after full retraction
then the refill starts to extend again.
After reaching full extension you have to twist counter-clockwise to retract and if you keep twisting counter-clockwise the refill extends again.
The problem with this is that you can never be sure that the refill is fully retracted and that uncertainty can play havoc with shirt pockets getting inked up.
I ruined two of my favorite shirts as a result and now remember "discarding" those pens.
So the moral is to actually DISCARD the "discard stash"; DON'T keep those pens lying around.
But upon checking the Berea description and instructions for the Sierra Diverse just now, I see no mention of the "double twist" action.
So MY QUESTION is: has Berea changed the double twist mechanism to a single twist mechanism in the Sierra Diverse ?
*** Please let me know if you know the answer because that would be a welcome change, IN MY OPINION.
I won't be making any more of these until they do . . . I don't want to ruin any more nice shirts !!!
Alternatively, perhaps someone sells a compatible single twist mechanism to replace the double twist mechanism.
However, doing the replacement is impossible after assembly, so you have to know about the "problem" right from the start
because the description/instructions don't give you any fore-warnings about ruining your shirts with ink in the pocket !!
( It has taken me an hour to compose and write this in what I think is understandable language, so I better get out of here !!! )
Good to see y'all again !!! Thanks for reading this if you are still with me !!!
Perhaps I am using the wrong terminology, Ed, when I say "double twist" . . . which I worried at the time of writing might be the case.I've never heard of a double twist sierra!!!!
Thanks, I will check that out and see if we have a solution.
Ed
Many cigar kits are double twist.
Glad to hear you are still kicking Mal.
Any chance replacing the tranny with a single twist will work? https://www.penblanks.ca/maple-leaf-transmissions-five-pack/
Hi Mal, yes you are using the term correctly, and yes I have seen double twist often on cigars,
BUT I have never seen a sierra style pen with a double twist transmission.
@jttheclockman ; @ed4copies ; @CurlyMal, there are many different styles of double twist kits and all seem to be two piece kits. Here is the instructions for the Diverse kit and it is a finial twist kit. Never seen a double twist in this style. If you have some could you post a photo?? Thanks. We will get to the bottom of this.
https://www.bereahardwoods.com/pdf/Sierra-Diverse-Ballpoint-Pen.pdf
We need to see the ones you have Mal and then we can go from there. Thanks.@jttheclockman ; @ed4copies ; @Curly
John and Ed . . . This style . . . the Sierra Diverse pen kit . . . has been around since 2019.
Ed : - "I've never heard of a double twist sierra!!!!"
Curly : - "Any chance replacing the tranny with a single twist will work? https://www.penblanks.ca/maple-leaf-transmissions-five-pack/ "
John : - "Never seen a double twist in this style. If you have some could you post a photo?? Thanks. We will get to the bottom of this."
Thanks to all of you for suggesting an alternative transmission. I have looked and not found one to match the architecture required.
(see my reply to @Curly above) -
@Mal -
"The architecture of the two trannies should (ideally) match, and I have not found one to match that of the Sierra Diverse.
Of course, one could machine an adapter."
Machining an adapter to mate with other aspects of the Diverse architecture would be a tricky process .
Take a look at the photo of the Diverse transmission in Berea's instructions for assembling that kit.
The link to the Berea instructions has been given several times above.
So Mal is correct in that it is a double twist? That is news to me also and actually thank Mal for bringing it up. Ed I believe you should make some sort of notation in the description of this kit because on everyone's site there is no mention of a double style twist tranny. All they say is twist. I wonder if there are other kits with this style that are single tubed sierra style kits. I too am not a fan of the double twist because of the examples mentioned about ink getting on clothes when you think refill is closed.Sorry if you were offended, Mal. That was NOT my intention!!!
I have looked at the sierra diverse in our inventory, as a result of this thread.
As sometimes happens, I have learned something NEW to ME.
Yes, the transmission is a double twist and YES, it is a totally unique design, with a connector machined onto it,
instead of threads. I do not see ANY way to replace it with a single twist---which was where I was headed with
my initial post. Sorry if that was not clear.
Ed
@ed4copiesSorry if you were offended, Mal. (Those words are totally inappropriate as I, Mal, will point out). That was NOT my intention!!!
I have looked at the sierra diverse in our inventory, as a result of this thread.
As sometimes happens, I have learned something NEW to ME.
Yes, the transmission is a double twist and YES, it is a totally unique design, with a connector machined onto it,
instead of threads. I do not see ANY way to replace it with a single twist---which was where I was headed with
my initial post. Sorry if that was not clear.
Ed