Jgrden
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Is there a electronic speed control that can be plugged into the outlet and then the lathe plugged into the variable pseed box?
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KenV
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No.
The standard AC motors are constant speed. Universal motors like you find on sewing machines and routers will use the cheap variable speed controllers, but those are fast motors with low torque.
DC motors with rectified speed controls is what you had on your Jet 1014.
There are brushless DC motors used on the bigger midis now, and 3 phase motors with variable frequency drives are used on bigger lathes
The standard AC motors are constant speed. Universal motors like you find on sewing machines and routers will use the cheap variable speed controllers, but those are fast motors with low torque.
DC motors with rectified speed controls is what you had on your Jet 1014.
There are brushless DC motors used on the bigger midis now, and 3 phase motors with variable frequency drives are used on bigger lathes
Skie_M
Member
PSI and other places have a variable speed midi lathe upgrade kit for around 130 dollars + shipping. You may want to look into that.
Jgrden
Member
The unit I am looking at is Harbor Frieght #65345, 7.5 Amps., 1/2 H/P, Single Phase, 110V/ - /60 Hz. Would a speed control work? they call it a Router Speed cntrol #43060 at HF. ??
KenV
Member
John - that speed control works on,universal motors. It will not be successful with a fixed speed AC motor which is normally used on the non-vs style midi lathes.
If you put a router motor on the lathe, that would match it. You probably would not be a happy user though.
Look for a used wheelchair motor and controller to have a low cost DC system, or a repurposed treadmill motor-controller combination.
Jgrden
Member
Ken:
Thank you for your input. You saved me from making a mistake. I am going to explore the wheel chair motor but think it might be best to bite the bullet and find a used 1014VS used or buy a used 1014 and upgrade it. T"he new 1015 VS makes the pen turner change belts for the different speeds. Doen's this seem like a bother to stop the machine change belts??? Am I missing something?
hanau
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1014 vs you still need to change belts to get different speeds.
even though it has a speed control
even though it has a speed control
knowltoh
Member
It only takes a few seconds to change the belt configuration on the variable speed. I find it no bother at all and love the variable speed capability.
JimB
Member
The 1015 VS has 3 ranges. The top range is from 600 to 3600. For me I wouldn't need anything outside that range. Are you sure you didn't look at the non-vs model?
Skie_M
Member
Oh ... so they went ahead and made it a hybrid speed control system?
In order to change speeds to get the full range that lathe can handle, you have an adjustment knob to change the speed of the motor itself, and you have pulley wheels to act as a transmission to change the lathe spindle speed on top of that...
In order to change speeds to get the full range that lathe can handle, you have an adjustment knob to change the speed of the motor itself, and you have pulley wheels to act as a transmission to change the lathe spindle speed on top of that...
Cmiles1985
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Correct. For example, I have the 1221VS. The belt positions cover different ranges, but depending on the ranges, belt position changes are few and far between. My high speed range goes from about 220 to 3650. I don't even change belt positions when I go from pens to bowls 
JimB
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Yes, it is the same way the Jet 1014vs and many other mini lathes with VS work. I have the Jet 1014vs. The speed range gives me enough range that i never need to change the belt. I haven't changed the belt position in years.
Dan Masshardt
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The only lathe I'm aware of with no belt change ever is the nova dvr.
oneleggimp
Member
The little HF VS Mini Lathe (8 X 12) has no belt change. All done with the potentiometer.
Dan Masshardt
Member
well there you go.
Bill in Buena Park
Member
There's also those that that do VS by changing the belt for you (aka Reeves drive), like the Jet 1236 and similar (HF#34706). Might be a little large for pen work. :wink:
Jgrden
Member
I went to Woodcraft to look at the 1015 VS. changing the belt is not what I want. i did consider going to the manual but it is not for me. I was s[poiled by my 1014VS. Thank you.
Jgrden
Member
Hi Dan:
We went to Harbor Freight to look at the VS. The only issue I have is that it is MT#1, It left me with the feeling of buying a Chevy when a Cadillac was what I wanted. Now I will admit, a Cadillac is out of my spending range so i might need to put my big boy pants on,bite the bullet and settle for it.
How do you feel about the PSI TurnMaster? It has electric speed control and has nine out of ten good reviews. It is on sale for $350.00 but the $50.00 shipping takes makes it four hundred dollars.
JimB
Member
The Jet 1014VS is a belt changer as well so I'm confused by why you think the 1015 is different. I have the 1014VS so I know it is a belt changer. Perhaps when you had it you just never felt the need to change the belt setting with the range the VS gave you.
The 1015 comes in a VS and non-VS just like the 1014 did.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I just don't understand why you believe the 1015vs is more of a belt changer than the 1014vs.
Jgrden
Member
Don't worry, I am in good spirits with you.
My experience is that I had a 1014 belt changer and a 1014 VS. On the 1014VS I just turned a knob up or down to increase of decree the speed. When finishing and using glue the speed was very low, when cutting hard woods or antler the speed was high. No belt changing just a twist of the knob. The 1015 VS s a belt changer. I saw it today at Woodcraft on 1960 in Houston.
I am not the sharpest tool in the shed
but have been sharpening my knowledge on my trek for a new lathe. Please keep in communication. I appreciate your input.
John, In Crosby, Texas
Dan Masshardt
Member
The jet 1014vs does have a belt that can be changed as well as the knob. Each belt change gives a new range of speeds to the knob.
Dan Masshardt
Member
There are lots of users here with the turncrafter from psi. I have no personal experience.
If I was looking for a new lathe and could wait, it would be when the rikon EVS model goes on sale for $500 and change.
You can also take a look at the nova comet 2. Woodturningz carries it as well as other online vendors.
If I was looking for a new lathe and could wait, it would be when the rikon EVS model goes on sale for $500 and change.
You can also take a look at the nova comet 2. Woodturningz carries it as well as other online vendors.
JimB
Member
yes, on the 1014 VS there is a knob to change speeds but there is also the ability to change the belt. The belt on the 1014VS has 3 possible settings giving the VS 3 ranges. The 1015 VS works the same exact way except the ranges are a bit different. The 1015 is also a bit larger than the 1014.
When you looked at the 1015 at Woodcraft, if it didn't have the knob then you were looking at the non-VS model, not the VS model.
If you loved your 1014VS I think you will love the 1015VS just as much, maybe more since it is a tad bigger.
When you looked at the 1015 at Woodcraft, if it didn't have the knob then you were looking at the non-VS model, not the VS model.
If you loved your 1014VS I think you will love the 1015VS just as much, maybe more since it is a tad bigger.
KenV
Member
John -- my 1014 VS does have three wheels -- but I use the middle one for most everything that fits the lathe. I seldom (as in never in memory) change belts -- just work with the range.
Jgrden
Member
Agreed, I never changed the belt on y 1014VS. I knew it was there but did not need the extra range.
thank you, Ken.
Jgrden
Member
Rikon EVS Model ..... Timing is important as the holiday season is upon us and we need to gt turning. thanks about the lead to Woodturnigz, I did not realize they carried lathes.
thank you Dan.
Rick_G
Member
You can also always watch for used treadmills. The one sitting in my basement gathering dust has a 2Hp. variable speed DC motor in it. I was considering putting it in my Delta but then I decided to get a much larger lathe for bowls etc. The Delta is now a buffing station. I'll likely still use the motor for something just not sure what yet.
Wildman
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This thread over at woodnet.com talks about a Jet 1642 with dead motor. Since have a 1642 read each post and feel swapping my motor and controller beyond me without help.
Jet 1642 VFD is cold and dead
From the link above might find motor & VFD to work on that HF lathe.
http://dealerselectric.com/item.asp?cID=0&scID=2&PID=24082
Modifying the lathe to mount the motor, make the necessary electrical connection and programming not for the faint of heart. Back when this was pretty common modification to Nova 3000 sites like this and instruction from those that did it pretty easy to find on message boards. Perhaps someone here could advise you.
Jet 1642 VFD is cold and dead
From the link above might find motor & VFD to work on that HF lathe.
http://dealerselectric.com/item.asp?cID=0&scID=2&PID=24082
Modifying the lathe to mount the motor, make the necessary electrical connection and programming not for the faint of heart. Back when this was pretty common modification to Nova 3000 sites like this and instruction from those that did it pretty easy to find on message boards. Perhaps someone here could advise you.