Wood/Blank ID needed

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Hi all need help id'ing this blank. It has been stabilized and the corners cut prior to being stabilized. Maybe a type of oak but not sure. It came from the sale of Lou Metcalf's blanks recently but was not labeled. With the quality of his blanks that I saw I'm wondering if it may be a historic type blank...not much way to tell but interested in case someone has had a similar blank with the corners cut off etc.

Thanks for looking, any help appreciated.

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Sorry I can't help ya. It looks old so your theory about it being a historic piece could be spot on. Sadly the legacy is lost. For all I could tell you it looks like a stick that a caveman wrote on a wall with, so that's no help. Good luck with it. I have lots of mystery wood myself.
 
How bout ya go ahead and turn it round (between centers) and sand it up to 1000 so that we can get a very nice look at the real grain patterns? :)
 
Would help to have a picture of each end , sanded to about 400 , then vacuumed .

Good idea, I'll try to do that tonight.

Sorry I can't help ya. It looks old so your theory about it being a historic piece could be spot on. Sadly the legacy is lost. For all I could tell you it looks like a stick that a caveman wrote on a wall with, so that's no help. Good luck with it. I have lots of mystery wood myself.

Lol yes mystery wood abounds with me too, this one I couldn't not explore, it does look so old I'd love to know.....maybe the Ark? Bigfoot toothpick?:biggrin:

How bout ya go ahead and turn it round (between centers) and sand it up to 1000 so that we can get a very nice look at the real grain patterns? :)

Right now more concerned about leaving the blank intact for some weird reason, hoping the octagon shape etc may give someone a clue. If it is an old historic piece "witness" wood etc I'd rather know that than the species I guess. Should've been clearer in the post but good point and idea!


I'm probably daydreaming about it being historic but if it is would rather not see if go in the dunno pile.

Thanks for the replies!
 
I have some stabilized spalted mango which looks a bit like that .... not octagonal tho'

Robutacion often octagonalizes the blanks he ships overseas; and he is good at wood ID.

Give him a shout.
 
Good point Mal! I thought about George with the corners knocked off but it doesn't have any numbering and doesn't match his typical cuts....doesn't make it not his though. Don't know how to send a link through the forum app so will shoot it to him tomorrow when in front of a cpu. Thanks!

Here are shots of the ends sanded down.
 

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Good point Mal! I thought about George with the corners knocked off but it doesn't have any numbering and doesn't match his typical cuts....doesn't make it not his though. Don't know how to send a link through the forum app so will shoot it to him tomorrow when in front of a cpu. Thanks!

Here are shots of the ends sanded down.

Great clue magpens I did and still do cut the square corners of some blanks, including those ones.

This mean that, the blank is mine, it was my first attempt at stabilizing but years before the Cactus Juice was available, where I used a wood hardener made by a company in Australia that I forgot the name but that, it will be revealed when I find the thread I made about these blanks, all those years ago.

I have sold a few dozens of these blanks but, I had to stop because, the wood was very soft and soaked far too much of the wood hardener that was sold in a 1/4 a litre spray bottle and later I manage to get the biggest containers they sell/sold (not sure if still available) that was of, if I remember correctly of 1 litre for $70.00 and those very "spongy" blanks drunk that stuff like camels drink water...!:eek:

You would be saying by now, "cut the bull and tell us what the wood id...!" right...???:rolleyes::biggrin: I will get there , my friends, I will get there...!!!

As for the age of the wood, I'm sorry to say, is not "ancient" and not really "Colonial" its younger that that, I would predict to have been about 30 to 40 years old when it died and after some decomposition standing up, if fall over a small creek in an area of thick bush and tall grass.

I found it when asked to clear an old fence from the overgrowth, so that a tractor could go through rip the old posts and wire and put a new fence. The fence at one point crossed this creek and that is why I found it, very spalted, very soft by, very pretty, nature has been working on that wood since the tree died and in such a humid area, fungi developed quite rapidly.

I calculated the tree being there for no longer than 2 years, another 2 years and the wood would be saw dust as this wood deteriorates very rapidly in such conditions...!

Any clues, yet...???

So, what do we know so far..???

*- In that location, it had to be a native tree,

*- It has a fairly short life expectancy,

*- It decomposes very fast and become very soft,

*- Natural spalting makes it one of the most beautiful woods out there,

*- I have plenty of it and, in a few other sub-species, also,

*- Large wood borer kills these trees and termites eat it like, chips,

*- Oh...! and it has a beautiful yellow flower,

Not yet...???

OK, you have to wait a little longer and why not use this opportunity to have some fun and learn something...??:wink::biggrin:

Be back soon...!

PS: And about the blanks' one end looking a little strange and whipy, that happened because...! do you know why...??? something I did those days to show the natural wood colours...?

Cheers
George
 
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Mal,
Nice work! You did well!

Edgar,
You have got some pretty good eyes to read Earl's in that one picture I found unless I missed it somewhere else...you're good!


George,

I should have known somehow this would turn into one of your wood id games! hahaha

I did find some threads of yours talking about this wood....interesting to see you discuss the flap disc and corner cutting in different threads with this wood. Not sure if these were the first times you brought up these topics but very interesting either way.

As to the PS I assume one end was sanded down a bit? It looked like it might have been hung from one end to me?

PS....I still think it's historic, it's just a historic Georgenized blank!
 
Mal,
Nice work! You did well!

Edgar,
You have got some pretty good eyes to read Earl's in that one picture I found unless I missed it somewhere else...you're good!


George,

I should have known somehow this would turn into one of your wood id games! hahaha

I did find some threads of yours talking about this wood....interesting to see you discuss the flap disc and corner cutting in different threads with this wood. Not sure if these were the first times you brought up these topics but very interesting either way.

As to the PS I assume one end was sanded down a bit? It looked like it might have been hung from one end to me?

PS....I still think it's historic, it's just a historic Georgenized blank!

Well, I suppose you can say that...!:biggrin:

I have done a very identical job on both the Golden Wattle and the rare spalted Black Wattle, both of identical characteristics as Acacias but different colours.

And as for that rough blank end, sometimes the same shows on both ends of the blank, is cause by the wood been waxed before I put it in the solution (soaking), sort or reaction...!

So now, you all know, huh...?

It was fun, thanks...!

Cheers
George
 
Hi all need help id'ing this blank. It has been stabilized and the corners cut prior to being stabilized. Maybe a type of oak but not sure. It came from the sale of Lou Metcalf's blanks recently but was not labeled. With the quality of his blanks that I saw I'm wondering if it may be a historic type blank...not much way to tell but interested in case someone has had a similar blank with the corners cut off etc.

Thanks for looking, any help appreciated.


I have the same blank from Lou also. No idea what it is.
 
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It looks like it is an original George blank, stabilized Golden Wattle
 
Hi all need help id'ing this blank. It has been stabilized and the corners cut prior to being stabilized. Maybe a type of oak but not sure. It came from the sale of Lou Metcalf's blanks recently but was not labeled. With the quality of his blanks that I saw I'm wondering if it may be a historic type blank...not much way to tell but interested in case someone has had a similar blank with the corners cut off etc.

Thanks for looking, any help appreciated.


I have the same blank from Lou also. No idea what it is.

At the time, I have hardened/sort of stabilised 2 Wattle species that I had in a very soft condition but, with great colours, one was the Golden Wattle and the other was some spalted Black Wattle that is not easy to find.

Those blanks were done the same way, I had waxed the ends on most of them before I decided to try to harden them, reason of the "funny" ends and, one thing that I forgot to mention before about the shape of the blanks, was that, the hardener I was using was so expensive that, I remove as much wood as I could to save hardener.

While they look identical, sometimes you can tell which is which with all certainty, after the blanks has been turned and finished however, I can tell them appart as they are. The blank that started this thread, and shown in the pics, is the spalted Black Wattle, I still have some left, somewhere, the colours are more brown and black while the Golden Wattle, will have some reds in it.

It is possible that, the blank you got is the Golden Wattle and if you want to be sure, take a couple of close-up pics and let us see them...!

Another interesting fact about these blanks and the "Flap disk" system that I started to introduce long ago, was due to the fact that, many of those that purchased these blanks raw, would simply blow the up while turning and even with this hardener, the wood doesn't get half as hard as with the cactus juice so, I continued to suggest the flap disk system as an good approach to get these blanks to become a finished pen.

Cheers
George
 
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