IE 11 Compatability Issue

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The upgrade of Internet Explorer to Version 11 that Microsoft is rolling out has some incompatibility issues with the Javascript we use to display menus. So instead of seeing the usual menu bar with the forums list, search, etc. You are seeing a different toolbar with other, not-so-useful options. This was first discussed here.

There is a workaround, but until I can discover, test, and implement it, the only options are to downgrade to IE 10 or use a different browser. I hope to have a fix in the next few days.

I don't know of incompatibility issues with any other browser. Sorry for the annoyance.
 
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I am the administrator for a peer-review management web site operated by a professional society. We are also experiencing problems with IE11. In fact, some users are being denied access to the site altogether because IE11 is triggering an 'unrecognized browser' error.

This is another instance of an arrogant move by Microsoft that is making life miserable for users of its software. Actually, they made two errors. The first was to write IE11 without regard for backward compatibility with the web sites that it must work with. The second was to impose it on their users as part of an automatic Windows security upgrade without an option to stay with IE10.

The solution I am recommending to our users is to use another browser. My preference is for Firefox with the 'NoSquint' add-on.
 
I've also noticed that if (using IE 11), you click on a photo attachment, the preview window pops up but the image does not display. If you click again, then the image will display (just not in the preview pane).

I've come to regard Windows Update as malware, and the IE 11 install has prompted me to change browsers.
 
Folks, I have been in IT management for more years as I care to mention, and I have always had a rule with any Microsoft product "wait for the 1st maintenance release before installing.

I have been using IE 11 as I need to in my day to day job know what it will do to my sites, but my primary for browsing is still Chrome...

Mike B
 
One of the big underlying issues with this 'problem' is not so much backwards compatibility but the approaching end of life with windows XP. The trickle down effect of forcing the new API's onto developers mandates that the new 'changes' leaves sites where they are unable to support IE8, which happens to be the max version of IE you can install on windows XP. Thus reducing the number of compatible sites that you can use with windows XP.

So far the only option I have found is the compatibility mode option, other than that we have remove IE11 but the big problem is IE11 is set to roll as a major security update and if you remove it then it can reinstall itself. If you do opt to go this route then be aware there is an 'IE11 blocker' that will stop the auto install.

Download Toolkit to Disable Automatic Delivery of Internet Explorer 11 from Official Microsoft Download Center

For those of you who wishes to uninstall IE11 it is no longer in the programs and features section but instead in the "View installed updates" link on the left side. Once there I suggest you search by "installed on" or put "explorer" into the search box on the top right corner.

However ultimately I see a version upgrade coming in the future for IAP.
 
I agree with Ed on this issue, but this brings up another issue. I would imagine we have a large percentage of folks still using Windows XP and because of it IE8. If you are in this predicament, you need to plan to upgrade over the next couple months as Microsoft is not supporting these products anymore and will not be providing any fixes to the products. That means if a security breach happens to be found in IE8 it won't get fixed...
 
monophoto said:
I am the administrator for a peer-review management web site operated by a professional society. We are also experiencing problems with IE11. In fact, some users are being denied access to the site altogether because IE11 is triggering an 'unrecognized browser' error.

This is another instance of an arrogant move by Microsoft that is making life miserable for users of its software. Actually, they made two errors. The first was to write IE11 without regard for backward compatibility with the web sites that it must work with. The second was to impose it on their users as part of an automatic Windows security upgrade without an option to stay with IE10.

The solution I am recommending to our users is to use another browser. My preference is for Firefox with the 'NoSquint' add-on.
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That's exactly the issue we're having. It's a browser detection issue, and the server delivers the wrong Javascript to the client because it doesn't recognize the browser. It's fixable, but that just perpetuates the real problem.

About 23% of our visitors use IE, so it's something I need to fix.
 
These 2 images should help greatly I think.

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First thing we see worthy of serious note is 31.16% use windows XP or lower while 25.05% are likely to run into the problems with IE11 that we posted about here. So in short approximately 25% of IAP members will have the IE11 javascript problems.

As for the mobiles there is no question about the #1 smartphone brand or model.



Let me hit on 'security holes' briefly in closing. All software has holes, for every 1,000 lines of code 20-25% of them will have bugs, 5% of them will be 'critical' bugs. This means that even updates induces bugs as well as base code. windows XP is 40 million lines of code, windows 7 is estimated around 50-60 million.
 

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New info I just found on the problem.

The issue of .NET 4.0 Web pages not rendering properly for specific versions of Internet Explorer is a repeat of the recent inability of the ASP.NET engine to detect IE 10 . Frankly, I'm surprised that this continues to be a problem and that Microsoft has not come out with a long-term solution other than urging developers to upgrade to ASP.NET 4.5 or face constantly having to deal with detection problems.
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Specifically, when ASP.NET detects an unknown browser, the markup that it serves is significantly different from what it usually serves. From what I've seen so far, this includes no working PostBacks or JavaScript, and all inline styling for the .NET web controls is dropped.
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ASP.NET Doesn't Detect IE11 « Justin Cooney
 
I use Chrome about 95% of the time with very few issues. Haved used for a number of years. Firefox is another alternative. Microsoft can be arrogant and irritating sometimes.
 
Chrome and Safari here what is IE11? After 28 years with Microsoft and all it's versions now with Apple. Use Safari and Chrome on phone, tablet, and desktop. Wife won't change her PC for a Mac so I still have to go in once a week and straighten things out, She is Technically Challenged so it's always something.
 
Gee, a problem with ASP.NET not patched up to handle IE 11? I wonder who created that software being used all over the place? Oh ya, Microsoft.

Guess they can't get their own house in order again...
 
healeydays said:
Gee, a problem with ASP.NET not patched up to handle IE 11? I wonder who created that software being used all over the place? Oh ya, Microsoft.

Guess they can't get their own house in order again...
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Yeah, Microsoft is slowly digging there own graves. They missed the paradigm shift that happened a few years back.

Microsoft still believes that productive business professionals want to be saddled to a desk with a bulky laptop or desktop. By the time they realized that they had missed the turn, they were too far behind their competitors to be relevant.

Microsoft's new product offerings are simply pitiful when compared to competitors.
 
OK this problem should be fixed. The menubar looks correct to me using IE11.

Could those of you who had this issue please verify that the menu bar is back to normal? (Most notably, you should see the "forums" dropdown.)

Could those of you using other browsers please make sure this fix didn't break your menubar?

Thanks
 
Jeff,

The fix does nothing deleterious to Firefox (Rel. 26), Safari (V.7.0/9537.71) or Chrome (V. 31.0.1650.63) which should be the latest releases of each browser.
 
edstreet said:
appears to be a double or triple refresh on loading. taxed system will definitely show that as a problem.
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Can you be more specific? The only thing I did was to add the useragent detection for IE11, and the logic to send the correct menu code.

What is refreshing? I didn't add any HTML refresh nor do I think any are delivered with that page.
 
Jeff,
I don't know if it's my problem or not but the Quick Link problem is fixed but now I can't click on a picture and open it. I have to right click and do open from there. I just did some update and it might be my computer. I'm using IE.

jim
 
Hi Jim

I just made another change that could fix that. Give it another go and see what happens.

Thanks -- Jeff
 
The refresh that I mentioned seems to be more of a color change that happens in IE and not in firefox. I need to try to find a slow machine with ie 11 on it to see how it handles.
 
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