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I picked up my first Sig Sauer today, a P238 Tribal in .380. Paid way to much for it but I have always wanted a Sig. At 15.2 oz and 5.5" long it should be a dream to carry.

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I like the rainbow controls. I almost got the rainbow 290 w/night sights, but it was mostly just pretty. Only single stack was another con.
You will love your new SIG.:wink:
 
Nice! I had a 9 mm years ago.... sold it (cheap) while going through divorce!

(:wink: Is that as or more dangerous than a buffer?)
 
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I know!

The tool is never dangerous. It's the tool using the tool that is dangerous.

It makes me always think back to early in the Marines and hearing "There is no such thing as a stupid questions." I've since amended that to "There's no such thing as a stupid question but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
 
Wow Dick! That is just beautiful! Thank you for showing it to us! I am still looking for my first Sig. But if I saw one like that in the store, I would be sorely tempted!

Scott.
 
Lets see here ...

2x 100% home built AK's. Yes this is sheet metal and I can build them out of a shovel.
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4x AR's, 1 of them is not shown and it's an M&P, these 3 are going to be special I think and not 100% sure what I want yet. Am leaning towards 1 with a can but may go integrated, 2 regular and 1 carbine or pistol.
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There is the gas system, sights and top grip on my 12 gauge. Trivial work yes but not cheap on the parts. The bulk of the work has already been done for the rest of the project.
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Then there's the JAE stock for this bad boy. 12 month back log and $1,200, it's a shelf project for some time now.
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Oh yea, I want to do some mod upgrades to my double barrel flintlock 20 gauge.
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Namely replace everything you see here.
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Am going with a Manton V-pan lock. Since I am unable to locate a pair of locks for this one I will have to custom cut one from bar stock. Also have to put on some blast shields on the side. That can be brutal.

This is her in action.
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Yes she can be a range hazard if safety is not strictly observed.
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See that orange beam shooting out the side? That's the breath of the dragon :)

I also have my southern mountain long rifle in the works. There is 3 black powder pistol builds as well. However my builds are not your normal builds by no means. This is two of my completed jobs.

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Colt

This little Colt Government Model 380 in stainless steel as served me well over the past 15 years. It settled an argument between me and a angry cotton mouth. That is about the only time it was called on in an emergency, but I know it is always there when needed. By the way, the grips are white paper based micarta I made just after purchasing the gun.

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So, I want to get my wife a something to carry for protection.

What would you safe would be a good choose.

She is tiny, 5' 2"....small hands

Looking for ideas,
 
So, I want to get my wife a something to carry for protection. What would you safe would be a good choose. She is tiny, 5' 2"....small hands Looking for ideas,

My wife is 5' 2" and had a S&W Bodyguard in .380. Got a little kick but the safety and dao sold me.
 
So, I want to get my wife a something to carry for protection.

What would you safe would be a good choose.

She is tiny, 5' 2"....small hands

Looking for ideas,

This is a very hotly debated topic and a very big loaded question. On one have you have the medically correct terminal ballistics big hole school which states anything that punches over 1/2" hole. Yet you have usability and when it comes to small grips, less muscle power and the like you will have to decrease size to make it fit.

What I like to encourage everyone is to first ignore the caliber. Get what fits the grip. After that work on precision, accuracy and usability. Afterall if you can't grip it or rack the slide properly it may as well be a hammer you have.

This is where gunshows and rentals comes in very handy at ranges. Walk around and test drive all different sizes, shapes and the like. Go with what fits, feels good and natural to that person.
 
So, I want to get my wife a something to carry for protection.

What would you safe would be a good choose.

She is tiny, 5' 2"....small hands

Looking for ideas,

This is a very hotly debated topic and a very big loaded question. On one have you have the medically correct terminal ballistics big hole school which states anything that punches over 1/2" hole. Yet you have usability and when it comes to small grips, less muscle power and the like you will have to decrease size to make it fit.

What I like to encourage everyone is to first ignore the caliber. Get what fits the grip. After that work on precision, accuracy and usability. Afterall if you can't grip it or rack the slide properly it may as well be a hammer you have.

This is where gunshows and rentals comes in very handy at ranges. Walk around and test drive all different sizes, shapes and the like. Go with what fits, feels good and natural to that person.


Thanks Ed, teally does make a lot of sense, will do this for sure
 
This is a very hotly debated topic and a very big loaded question. On one have you have the medically correct terminal ballistics big hole school which states anything that punches over 1/2" hole. Yet you have usability and when it comes to small grips, less muscle power and the like you will have to decrease size to make it fit. What I like to encourage everyone is to first ignore the caliber. Get what fits the grip. After that work on precision, accuracy and usability. Afterall if you can't grip it or rack the slide properly it may as well be a hammer you have. This is where gunshows and rentals comes in very handy at ranges. Walk around and test drive all different sizes, shapes and the like. Go with what fits, feels good and natural to that person.

That. Go to a range. Make friends with a Devil Dog near you. Let your wife shoot everything. If she can handle it. It's comfortable. And fits then it's the one for her. I'll post the photos soon. Have to clean them anyways.
 
I agree with Edstreet. I had many recommendations from people before a purchase and a lot of them didn't feel right. You need to get something that fits the hand, is comfortable, and able to reach/operate the controls. If possible, test fire it to feel the recoil and test rack the slide.
I went with a Sig P229 9mm with E2 grips and love it. It's a great all around weapon and I chose the 9mm because the ammo was the least expensive and easy to obtain. It's a little more expensive than it used to be a couple of years ago, but still less costly than some of the other calibers. It's also harder to get ahold of now days with the demand and large government order.
Another great feature of the P229 is the ability to switch caibers to a .357 or .40 with a simple barrel exchange kit.
 
Things you need to look for:

pounds of pressure needed to release the slide lock
pounds needed to rack the hammer, if there is one.
distance you have to travel to reach the the slide lock and hammer.
good full range finger grip
natural aim point
angle of barrel to grip
unloading and loading the chamber, magazine or whatever it uses.
'goof proof' safe unloading.
hand / eye dominance and 'cross' (I shoot best cross fyi)

All of these are factored in by the persons mentality, physical size, physical strength, natural shoulder and elbow positions and need to be taken into account when selecting something to get.
 
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You will love it. I have a P238HD - .380 & a P938 - 9mm. I alternate these as my carry gun.



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Nice pair of Sigs. I think that my next purchase will be a Sig P938 to give me the option of carrying a 9mm. I'm a small guy and my CZ 9mm is a it big for me to carry but it fits my bedside table fine.
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Same thing in my pocket but the big brother...CZ P75 Duty 40...I think we chatted about these earlier?
 
Things you need to look for:

pounds of pressure needed to release the slide lock
pounds needed to rack the hammer, if there is one.
distance you have to travel to reach the the slide lock and hammer.
good full range finger grip
natural aim point
angle of barrel to grip
unloading and loading the chamber, magazine or whatever it uses.
'goof proof' safe unloading.
hand / eye dominance and 'cross' (I shoot best cross fyi)

All of these are factored in by the persons mentality, physical size, physical strength, natural shoulder and elbow positions and need to be taken into account when selecting something to get.

Or you can do as normal people...pick up the dadgum gun and learn how to shoot. None of the 70-80 snipers I know could give a crap about Lbs to rack the chamber? Really? After 23 years as a Master pistol/rifle in the military and shooting 3Gun for 8 years, that is the dumbest thing I have yet to hear other than "distance you have to travel to reach the slide lock and hammer". Tactical shooters have no business even thinking about such nonsense. And a poor guy defending his family in the middle of the night sure isn't going to worry about "Ed's rules for figuring out how to shoot my gun" Good lord man...educate yourself beyond a book!!
 
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Here the are gimpy. My wife agreed to hold all our guns for the comparison.

First is the Bodyguard by Smith and Wesson. It's a .380. It kicks but is manageable. And it's small. That's the reason we got it. Has a safety and the unused integrated laser.



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Next up is my Sig Sauer P226 in .40. It's got the rosewood grips. Shoots great. And I like that it's DA/SA with a hammer release.



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Here's the last one. Wife's Smith and Wesson 656 in .357 Magnum. Shots those and .38 Special so range time is not as expensive as it could be. Shoots like a dream. Been smithed by Smith and Wesson.



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But listen to Ed. She needs to fire them. She needs instruction. My wife used to limp wrist it and the 9mm she had wouldn't cycle. That's no good. But she doesn't do that now.
 
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