WORKING FOR THE FRDERAL GOV.

[PenPal]

A worthy aim is to store essentials, food, clothing, water etc at least enough to provide for yourself comes a state of emergency, then eat what you store store what you eat these emergencies do occur in our lives for reasons often beyond our control, just thinking common sense to ease the mind kinda like insurance only easily started within all our means.

I remember clearly all farmers are faced with worse all the time susceptable to seasons, fire, floods etc they tend to have a bag of flour etc ready for tough times.

Please have a good outcome.

Kind regards Peter.

 

[joefyffe]

+1 Kinda like voting yourself a paid vacation!

the bill has not been passed yet but was introduced. it is HR 3223 and was introduced on 9/30/2013. it would guarantee employees all back pay no matter what their status. so they will have to suffer through the layoff but get the windfall afterwards. not the way to run the government. they are not working, they should not be paid. not a function of whose fault. they are being paid with our tax dollars.

 

[NotURMailman]

My company has already furloughed some people. The rest of us are in limbo waiting to see if we will be sent home. The longer this lasts, the more likely it is. Not a good feeling!

 

[Smitty37]

Well in the thinking of a lot of folks it is "nobody's fault"....my daughter said she thinks "they're all responsible" (meaning both political parties and the one or two independents in Congress and the White House). I told her that is the same as saying it's nobody's fault and if it's nobody's fault, who can we call on to fix it??? But the thinking that everybody in Washington is equally to blame is (in my opinion) the kind of thinking that gets us into such situations in the first place.

I have an opinion, that I won't share here, of where the responsibility lies and exactly why it lies there...but regardless of whether yours would be the same as mine you should do a little research - TRUST ME ON THIS - SOMEBODY IS TO BLAME.

 

[Russianwolf]

Smitty is right. There is one party/group to blame and that is.......


The citizens.

They keep voting people in that do nothing and cause more problems than they are worth. And they accept it as the status quo.

So stop doing it.

:biggrin:

 

[walshjp17]

Since Congress (both houses) and the White House stopped working for the citizens that elected them, it's time we unelected all 537 of them and start over.

 

[alphageek]

As much as this conversation has stayed away from blaming one side or another, its still bordering more and more on political conversation. Please refrain or we will close the thread (no single poster being called out here).

Dean
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[Smitty37]

Smitty is right. There is one party/group to blame and that is.......


The citizens.

They keep voting people in that do nothing and cause more problems than they are worth. And they accept it as the status quo.

So stop doing it.

:biggrin:

I would completely agree on that except the citizens don't get a vote on legislation, and once passed legislation, no matter how bad, is very hard to get undone. Additionally, while a lot of us might not have noticed, we now have more law coming from the regulators than from our elected officials. We could throw out all 535 Representatives and Senators, along with the President - put new folks in place and not much would change.

If we threw out all 535 legislators and the president, I doubt that much could be changed unless we elected very dedicated people and kept them in office for at least 10 years.

 

[PeetyInMich]

Sorry Alphageek, incredibly (to me at least) it hasn't broken into a rep vs dem shouting match, and seemingly most of the posts with a political bent are pointing the "blame" back at us voters. But requesting more accountability on the people that we elect.

 

[cwolfs69]

Well apparently the house has passed the biil for all gvnmt employees to get back pay when settled. How rediculous. If so what has shutting down saved. Im forsaying, they are non-essential, they should be permanently laid off. Non essential, we dont need them.

 

[edstreet]

Well apparently the house has passed the biil for all gvnmt employees to get back pay when settled. How rediculous. If so what has shutting down saved. Im forsaying, they are non-essential, they should be permanently laid off. Non essential, we dont need them.

First your definition of 'essential' is the not the same, your def is very loose standards and the definition that the gov goes by is very strict. Apples and oranges my friend.

The bill that was passed is going to be rejected in the senate and already there is a veto threat if it passes the senate. This bill is as good as dead. The only purpose it will serve is serious loss of faith and followers of those who are doing the veto.

 

[Smitty37]

Well apparently the house has passed the biil for all gvnmt employees to get back pay when settled. How rediculous. If so what has shutting down saved. Im forsaying, they are non-essential, they should be permanently laid off. Non essential, we dont need them.

First your definition of 'essential' is the not the same, your def is very loose standards and the definition that the gov goes by is very strict. Apples and oranges my friend.

The bill that was passed is going to be rejected in the senate and already there is a veto threat if it passes the senate. This bill is as good as dead. The only purpose it will serve is serious loss of faith and followers of those who are doing the veto.

Oh, I don't know. I don't think I'd have a very hard time finding 800000 government employees that we could be better served if they were working for someone else.

 

[alphageek]

Closing thread - Its been through enough now.

IAP is not a place for this type of discussion and I'd rather close the thread than be forced to delete peoples posts.

Dean
Asst Mod.