Jgrden
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State of California requires seven letters be written in Capital Cursive letters on registration forms to avoid confusion. Yippee !!!! One reason for teachers to start teaching cursive again.
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sbell111
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Care to share a link?
ALexG
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ok, last weekend I had a show and got from a couple of customers "do people still write with pens?", I swallowed and responded "of course" and I thought to myself, where are all these people work, I use my pen everyday at my office
LagniappeRob
Member
I got the same question twice last weekend... hmm...
sbell111
Member
I really do wish that you would provide a link to what you are talking about. I've tried to google it up and failed and I am quite interested.
Wood Butcher
Local Chapter Leader
Maybe the answer to the question is, "Only those who can."
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Jgrden
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sbell111
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nativewooder
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Not wanting to get into politics, but our "edikashunal" system no longer teaches history, geography, cursive, current events, they don't supply textbooks, student lockers, but they do supply on-campus police and babysitters for students after class. I wonder if any of the "modern" teachers would be qualified to teach any of the listed subjects anyway! It is no wonder I can't hold a conversation with anyone under 20.
Haynie
Member
Check your zipper Barry. Your ignorance is hanging out.
sbell111
Member
Our local school system must be different than yours.
TerryDowning
Member
I have the good fortune to work with a lot of youth through our high school band and previously through scouting.
There are some bad ones out there (which can usually be traced to how they are being parented) but most of the High Schoolers I come across are a real pleasure to be around, intelligent, and for the most part better educated than I was at that point in my life. True they don't have the same amount of life experience as a more seasoned person, but they're not as cynical either.
If you don't think the schools in your area are doing a good enough job, then get involved in your community, when is the last time you went to a school board meeting? Most of the administrators I have met and worked with over the years have a genuine concern for the students in their charge and always welcome feedback on improving the educational experience.
There are some bad ones out there (which can usually be traced to how they are being parented) but most of the High Schoolers I come across are a real pleasure to be around, intelligent, and for the most part better educated than I was at that point in my life. True they don't have the same amount of life experience as a more seasoned person, but they're not as cynical either.
If you don't think the schools in your area are doing a good enough job, then get involved in your community, when is the last time you went to a school board meeting? Most of the administrators I have met and worked with over the years have a genuine concern for the students in their charge and always welcome feedback on improving the educational experience.
Fishinbo
Member
Same here. Very interested in what's it all about.
Rick P
Member
OK folks who question "who uses pens anymore" are living under a rock! I dont have a regular job, live in the woods off the land and I still use a pen almost every day!
"Kids these days!" SERIOUSLY! Have you seen footage of teens in the 60's 70's or 80's!!!!!?????? As far as I can tell, at least here in Alaska, this generation is expected to know more at a younger age and stay on the strait and narrow despite having things to deal with I could not have imagined and they are doing FAR better at it than anyone I went to high school with!!! Given that there is no middle class and virtually all our manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas I'd be sacred out of my mind if I was in high school today!
Teachers......my kids school is awesome! Gunther learns critical thinking along side of woods skills. His teachers and Principle are not just supportive of subsistence hunting they do everything they can to make sure my kid has the best education possible while doing it! They even copy pages from his books so we dont have the extra weight of paper we dont need. And I know for a FACT he is doing more than I did in kindergarten!
"Kids these days!" SERIOUSLY! Have you seen footage of teens in the 60's 70's or 80's!!!!!?????? As far as I can tell, at least here in Alaska, this generation is expected to know more at a younger age and stay on the strait and narrow despite having things to deal with I could not have imagined and they are doing FAR better at it than anyone I went to high school with!!! Given that there is no middle class and virtually all our manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas I'd be sacred out of my mind if I was in high school today!
Teachers......my kids school is awesome! Gunther learns critical thinking along side of woods skills. His teachers and Principle are not just supportive of subsistence hunting they do everything they can to make sure my kid has the best education possible while doing it! They even copy pages from his books so we dont have the extra weight of paper we dont need. And I know for a FACT he is doing more than I did in kindergarten!
Schools speak for themselves
Primary and secondary schools fail today at preparing students to be citizens. At 18, (my age was actually 17) when I graduated, graduates were expected to become a productive, tax paying citizens and remain so for the rest of their lives. Most of my class either got full-time jobs (some of them very menial entry level jobs) or joined the military.
Our parents expected us (if we stayed at home) to stop being a drain on their resources and contribute to maintaining the household. Our education prepared us for that.
Today we have a dilemma - we decry the fact that "good" manufacturing jobs are leaving us and at the same time we are not preparing our high school students to fill them, we are trying to prepare them for college....but, college graduates typically do not want a 'good' manufacturing job. They are being told that something better awaits them.
Of course the problem is - something better does not await them.
My opinion is our schools spend too much time and money on sports, an athlete will spend far more time at practice learning football (for instance)than in class learning math. We also offer much more praise and recognition to students excelling at sports than to those excelling academically. (incidently all of my children were 3 season athletes in high school and 5 of the 6 also participated in college sports and all were honor students as well, so I do know of what I speak here).
I'm also convinced that we also put way too much emphasis on improving "self esteem" even at the expense of academics.
My eldest son always had somewhat low self-esteem during his high school years, yet he graduated 4th in a class of 95, got an appointment to the USCGA, played JV and varsity football and baseball, JV basketball and wrestling, was a member of the National Honor Society.
My younger son who had very high self esteem during his school years had about the same resume but he did not get into the Coast Guard Academy - he did get a college scholarship though.
Both went on to better than decent jobs and good citizenship.
Primary and secondary schools fail today at preparing students to be citizens. At 18, (my age was actually 17) when I graduated, graduates were expected to become a productive, tax paying citizens and remain so for the rest of their lives. Most of my class either got full-time jobs (some of them very menial entry level jobs) or joined the military.
Our parents expected us (if we stayed at home) to stop being a drain on their resources and contribute to maintaining the household. Our education prepared us for that.
Today we have a dilemma - we decry the fact that "good" manufacturing jobs are leaving us and at the same time we are not preparing our high school students to fill them, we are trying to prepare them for college....but, college graduates typically do not want a 'good' manufacturing job. They are being told that something better awaits them.
Of course the problem is - something better does not await them.
My opinion is our schools spend too much time and money on sports, an athlete will spend far more time at practice learning football (for instance)than in class learning math. We also offer much more praise and recognition to students excelling at sports than to those excelling academically. (incidently all of my children were 3 season athletes in high school and 5 of the 6 also participated in college sports and all were honor students as well, so I do know of what I speak here).
I'm also convinced that we also put way too much emphasis on improving "self esteem" even at the expense of academics.
My eldest son always had somewhat low self-esteem during his high school years, yet he graduated 4th in a class of 95, got an appointment to the USCGA, played JV and varsity football and baseball, JV basketball and wrestling, was a member of the National Honor Society.
My younger son who had very high self esteem during his school years had about the same resume but he did not get into the Coast Guard Academy - he did get a college scholarship though.
Both went on to better than decent jobs and good citizenship.
sbell111
Member
You decry public schools ability to prepare kids for life and then you give two example of successful transitions. You blame it all on school sports, but then your examples include one kid who was in sports and one that wasn't.
Perhaps your assumptions are off.
Perhaps your assumptions are off.
Not at all. 1st, the examples did not join the workforce out of high school and were not prepared to'provide for themselves and stop being a drain on the family resources when they graduated from high school. Both spent another 4 years in college before they were ready for that.
TellicoTurning
Member
My printing almost looks like cursive and my cursive almost looks like printing... almost can't write legibly either way.... my wife swears that in my earlier life I was probably a brain surgeon because of my hand writing... and usually after the ink dries, I can read it either. I can type much faster than I can write and mostly only write for my own use anymore... if I want someone else to read it, I type.
panamag8or
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Those are the people I point toward the styluses.