Mechanisim in too far, any suggestions?

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After all the work I put in to a bullet pen I pushed the mechanisim in too far. :mad: I thought I'd never do that. I know why it happened but that's another story. It's a .30-06 with a real bullet using a slim line kit (Cross refill). Is there a metal screw with the same thread? If so, thought I might possibly use it as a puller to pull it back out a little.
Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
Alfred
 
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ALA said:
After all the work I put in to a bullet pen I pushed the mechanisim in too far. :mad: I thought I'd never do that. I know why it happened but that's another story. It's a .30-06 with a real bullet using a slim line kit (Cross refill). Is there a metal screw with the same thread? If so, thought I might possibly use it as a puller to pull it back out a little.
Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
Alfred
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Take the pc. the screws into the mech. to a true value hardware. they can match the threads and size. A bolt will work. You might want to put a stopper behind the mech.
 
Theres a disassembly kit that I got from Woodcraft that has a metal block with a hole you can set the tranny into and tap it out backwards with the close fitting pin that comes with it. If you can drill a 1/4" hole in a metal block and find the right pin out of a transfer punch set you can do the same thing.
 
Alfred; Drill a hole slightly smaller than the size of the transmission into a small scrap of pen blank. Split the piece in two lengthwise. Now put a metal washer or two on the transmission. Clamp the two pieces around the transmission and put in a vise. Now using two flat bladed screwdrivers, pry up on the washers and down on the blank pieces to retract the transmission.

It is hard to describe, but easy to do.
 
randyrls said:
Alfred; Drill a hole slightly smaller than the size of the transmission into a small scrap of pen blank. Split the piece in two lengthwise. Now put a metal washer or two on the transmission. Clamp the two pieces around the transmission and put in a vise. Now using two flat bladed screwdrivers, pry up on the washers and down on the blank pieces to retract the transmission.

It is hard to describe, but easy to do.
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I'll try the hardware store first. I need to go there in the morning any way. If I can't find a screw with the right threads I'll try the wood blocks.
I have a set of HF transfer punches but none of them will fit thru the tip which is pressed in.
Thanks for all the suggestions. One of these should work.
Alfred
 
Alfred, you can use a small punch to go through the transmission to knock the nib out first. then you have access to the bottom of the transmission. I put the drilled block with the pen and punch on my arbor press and just push it far enough to work.

Or you can unscrew the refill enough to make it work properly and skip the whole process.
 
i used vise grips it ruins that transmission but they are cheap, i then made a block that is exactly 3/4 thick with hole bigger than transmission when pressing i next transmission you never got to far again ,, lessen learned ..
 
Les and Randy have it right for a bullet nib -- works every time.

Les uses the elegant solution of a Collet Chuck. Randy does the same thing with a wooden block as a collet clamp.

Works either way because they are functionally the same --- Good techniques Gentlemen!!!
 
ALA said:
randyrls said:
Alfred; Drill a hole slightly smaller than the size of the transmission into a small scrap of pen blank. Split the piece in two lengthwise. Now put a metal washer or two on the transmission. Clamp the two pieces around the transmission and put in a vise. Now using two flat bladed screwdrivers, pry up on the washers and down on the blank pieces to retract the transmission.

It is hard to describe, but easy to do.
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I'll try the hardware store first. I need to go there in the morning any way. If I can't find a screw with the right threads I'll try the wood blocks.
I have a set of HF transfer punches but none of them will fit thru the tip which is pressed in.
Thanks for all the suggestions. One of these should work.
Alfred
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Alfred that may be a difficult screw or bolt to find, the size is 4.5mm x 0.75 thread pitch. Traditionally with the disassemble kit, you remove the Nib, but with a real bullet nib, that doesn't sound like a good idea. The transfer punch for the nib would most likely damage the bullet. I hope you can find the screw, that should make the job reasonably easy, but I would recommend replacing the tranny afterwards. Pulling with enough force to withdraw it even a little bit most likely will damage the action of the transmission.
 
Have you already finished the cartridge? If not (or if you don't mind refinishing it), then your best bet may be to pull the bullet, knock out the transmission with a punch, and then reassemble everything.

When I seat a transmission too deep (or when one gets stuck or damaged), I usually just discard the cartridge. It's less work for me to make a new one than to strip and refinish it. On the rare occasion that I need to salvage a kit, I'll try to pull the transmission. That seldom works, however, so I typically end up drilling it out.

Good luck,
Eric
 
Or... You could break off/remove the silver portion of the too-far-in transmission and press another one in above it. The small brass seating ring will just push farther down into the tube where it will not be in the way.
 
Thanks for all the input...lots of good ideas. I figured the Beall chuck would be the easiest so I went that route. guess the tranny was awful tight because when prying it out it broke. :eek: It was all down hill from there so now I'm starting all over. :frown: Oh well, count it as a learning experience I guess...
Alfred
 
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