76winger
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Yes, if you wish to. :wink:
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76winger
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Oh, while we're chatting about Facebook, check out this InfoWorld article about a Facebook IPO. If there's any truth to it the whole thing's gonna change drastically, even from the upcoming Feb. 5 changes (already seems pretty permanent to me).
Linky: The Facebook IPO: Zuck's letter to investors | Cringely - InfoWorld
Linky: The Facebook IPO: Zuck's letter to investors | Cringely - InfoWorld
leestoresund
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All of what is said is true.
I started a page for my high school class ('62) and we are using it to get everyone together for our 50th reunion.
When I have a criminal case I search it for other parties. I've found enough info at various times to get three of my clients acquitted. (Girls tend to lie about sex and age and guys do get caught up in that.)
Oops. Gotta walk the dog. TTFN.
I started a page for my high school class ('62) and we are using it to get everyone together for our 50th reunion.
When I have a criminal case I search it for other parties. I've found enough info at various times to get three of my clients acquitted. (Girls tend to lie about sex and age and guys do get caught up in that.)
Oops. Gotta walk the dog. TTFN.
IPD_Mrs
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There are a lot of security measures that people do not take advantage of. This is unfortunate because some don't always realize what does become "public" - but if you know how to block your info it does not become public the minute you type something to your page and is only available to those you have made it available to. I have also found that things can be removed if they are put on and shouldn't be so that takes some of the worry away. Probably the most annoying thing to me, as many others have said, is that they change the format a little too frequently and for me that is where the security issues are. If you aren't aware of them when a format change takes place then you could be making something public that you previously had private and that would be a concern.
IPD_Mrs
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HALLELUJA. I even post a reminder to my friends once in a while that I don't ever accept (or in general even see these) so please save yourselves the hurt of feeling ignored and don't send them :wink:.
76winger
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Sounds like we're on the PAGE Linda (of course no pun intented...:wink
.The email setup really doesn't affect the business page. If I were contacted through that via the email, I'd still get it through to my smartphone and Windows Live Mail on my PC.
I've not yet elected for paid advertising but could in the future if I determine it could benefit me.
And yes on the security settings, I'm aware of them and choose not to clamp mine down too tight. Choosing instead to just not say anything on there I wouldn't want repeated. A lot of people aren't aware of those settings, and even more aren't even aware how easy it is for people to see what you've said on FB. It's really just like speaking in public: If you don't want it repeated for whatever reason, then it's best to not say it!
Rick P
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I just wanted to say as a stay at home dad that doesn't have anyone close enough to visit regularly Face book is a god send! I am in touch with freinds both past and current and we actually do have at least as good of conversations as we would over the phone. Without Face book I would go weeks without a conversation that involved anything more meaningful than could batman kick spider mans ass.
Fact is I have several friends in the bush that I would have to go months without talking to. With face book we can stay in touch and I dont need to worry about weather or not they froze or starved to death in the winter. More than once I have done the sled ride back to a friends to bring them food or them out to get a busted leg treated.
Fact is I have several friends in the bush that I would have to go months without talking to. With face book we can stay in touch and I dont need to worry about weather or not they froze or starved to death in the winter. More than once I have done the sled ride back to a friends to bring them food or them out to get a busted leg treated.
Joe Burns
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I use it daily to keep track of the kids and grand kids who are all out of state. For that purpose its great.
Its a medium that is not understood very well and abused regularly. Just make sure you don't post or say anything that you don't want in the public domain.
Joe
Its a medium that is not understood very well and abused regularly. Just make sure you don't post or say anything that you don't want in the public domain.
Joe
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Thanks for all of the responses - this has been an interesting read.
Thanks for all of the responses - this has been an interesting read.
76winger
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I think so to. It sounds like Facebook a newer technology that many on here misunderstand and thus haven't even tried.
Twitter is even more so, but very popular as well in its own way (and topic for yet another thread!).
intillzah
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I just read it far too much, But the status updates get old.
Florida Marine
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I've got HS friends, some fellow Marines and a few family members... I glance at it once a day, but really don't use it all that much.
I have never "tweeted"...not even sure how to use it.
The irony is I am an "IT" Comm Officer and work at one of the geekiest places for a Marine of my grade. I am somewhat of a Luddite at home from it I think.
I have never "tweeted"...not even sure how to use it.
The irony is I am an "IT" Comm Officer and work at one of the geekiest places for a Marine of my grade. I am somewhat of a Luddite at home from it I think.
PTsideshow
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I don't use any of them, as there are very few that I would want to contact. I don't feel the need nor do I have a need or use at this time for business use.
Wife is a Facebook Farmville Zombie/scrabble along with using it to catch up with daughter/son in law, and her outlaws in Fla. along with a limited number of friends.
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weasel1219
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Personally sometimes I think it over rated, but I have to be honest, posting my work on FB has generated a lot of my sales for my pens and it has provided a lot of feedback that has helped me out with my pen work. Twitter is used just as another link to our webpage, etc.
So, it has generally become a necessary evil...
JohnGreco
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Last year about half of my customers were fans of my Facebook page. With it being the most visited site, it's MUCH easier for me to get a fan and put my content in their newsfeed to see than it is to keep trying to direct them to my website.
Rob73
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I personally don't care to much for it to much. I think the interface is horrible, and their back end controls leave much to be desired, especially for business 'pages'. The only personal page I have is with google+ and I don't use it very often.
However, for any business type site it's unwise not to have at minimum a facebook like button. Facebook is so engrained into the society that it's a must have for any website.
However, for any business type site it's unwise not to have at minimum a facebook like button. Facebook is so engrained into the society that it's a must have for any website.
Andrew_K99
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I think 'society' thinks facebook is this great thing but in actuality it sucks. Most people I know or talk to don't like and/or use facebook, this seems to be the consensus here as well. Once it goes public it'll become more about making money and advertising which will slowly turn people away. Give it a couple of years and it to will fall like myspace.
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Texatdurango
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OK, since it has been mentioned several times I just have to ask...... For all of you claiming that Facebook has gained you quite a few pen sales, why do you do it?
A while back when it was all the rage for everyone on IAP to start sharing their facebook accounts with each other, like most others I was inundated with "friend requests" via email. When I accepted then opened my page all I saw were literally dozens upon dozens of ads where EVERYONE was peddling their pens and in some cases, that was ALL they were doing!
My initial thought was… HOW RUDE! In the real world, I wouldn't expect a friend or family member to visit my house then break out a case of pens and try to sell me one and I wouldn't dream of taking advantage of any friendships by doing it to any of my friends either.
SO, if facebook is all about bringing you together with all your friends and family, isn't taking advantage of the connection by constantly peddling pens to them a bit tasteless, rude and over the edge or is that just how the times have changed these days… anything for a buck? Personally, that was what turned me completely off facebook, everyone trying to make a dime…. From their friends and family!
This is not directed at anyone in particular, so don't go overboard and take it as an attack, I'm just looking for some clarification if I'm missing something.
A while back when it was all the rage for everyone on IAP to start sharing their facebook accounts with each other, like most others I was inundated with "friend requests" via email. When I accepted then opened my page all I saw were literally dozens upon dozens of ads where EVERYONE was peddling their pens and in some cases, that was ALL they were doing!
My initial thought was… HOW RUDE! In the real world, I wouldn't expect a friend or family member to visit my house then break out a case of pens and try to sell me one and I wouldn't dream of taking advantage of any friendships by doing it to any of my friends either.
SO, if facebook is all about bringing you together with all your friends and family, isn't taking advantage of the connection by constantly peddling pens to them a bit tasteless, rude and over the edge or is that just how the times have changed these days… anything for a buck? Personally, that was what turned me completely off facebook, everyone trying to make a dime…. From their friends and family!
This is not directed at anyone in particular, so don't go overboard and take it as an attack, I'm just looking for some clarification if I'm missing something.
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I have a hard time thinking of hundreds of people I've never even heard of as being friends. A cousin once invited me to join Facebook and told me how she had made 700 friends in just a couple of weeks. I said ya know I probably haven't had 700 people that I would call friend in my entire life. Relatives maybe, but friends not a chance.
I have a hard time thinking of hundreds of people I've never even heard of as being friends. A cousin once invited me to join Facebook and told me how she had made 700 friends in just a couple of weeks. I said ya know I probably haven't had 700 people that I would call friend in my entire life. Relatives maybe, but friends not a chance.
glycerine
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...what's facebook?
Gilrock
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I don't really like Facebook but I use it sometimes. I'm very guarded about who I accept and what I say because at my job I know my page can be monitored to make sure I'm not disclosing information I shouldn't. I actually closed my account for awhile but I got tired of not being able to see videos of my kids my wife was posting. So now I like to have an account just to monitor what she is posting. And Facebook is like cellphones...some people like me talk on the phone less than 5 minutes a day and others you almost never see them without the phone to their ear. Sometimes I wish we'd go back to the days when no one carried phones. Anyways although I do show pens on Facebook I don't peddle them...I like to show them there because unlike here my friends aren't looking to see if my blank perfectly matches my bushings. 
Andrew_K99
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That's one problem with facebook. People think the number of friends they have is a status. So if you only have 20, albeit good friends, you're the facebook equivilent of a loser. Now if you have 1200 friends, 99% of which are people you'll never talk to or see in real life, then you're popular.
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IPD_Mrs
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I think this is why it's good to have a personal page and a business page. I agree that it is a bit annoying if you are a turner and all of the sudden your personal friends and family (I'm talking the close ones not the ones that you have never even met but number 1200 on your list folks) are seeing pen ads by others on YOUR page. Now - I have my security set pretty tight so I don't worry much about it and I do delete things that I find offensive as well. We don't advertise our pens really - though we on rare occassion will show one off if pleased enough to do so because we have family out of state that like to see them here and there. Our Indy-Pen-Dance page is a business page and the only way that people get to see it is if they follow it - which on FaceBook is done by the "like" button. Of course they can search for it and visit it to see what is going on as well, but without the LIKE they won't get the notices etc. So I don't feel bad about that, as it means folks have chosen to get those updates.
Just my thoughts,
Linda
JohnGreco
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There's a Personal Page (where you need Friend Requests to see what people are posting unless they have their posts set to Public) and Fan Pages. I use my Fan page to talk about my business, new items, sales, and general goings-on in my business world. Which is good- that's why people chose to become a Fan, because they want to hear those things (or they can stop liking my page at any time with no hard feelings).
My personal page is for my more personal content. I post there about my wife and kids and what's going on in life in general. As the sole proprietor for my business, sometimes 'my life' and 'my business' overlap and I'll mention things here or there about my business (like an interview people could read about me), but I keep the real 'peddling' of my goods to my fan page.
I've seen people use their personal page as if it were a business page. It's frowned upon and Facebook has suspended accounts for doing this (it's against their terms of use).
So you need to make the distinction between the 2 ways Facebook is meant to be used and, based on that, the 2 different types of information people are interested in hearing about from you.
My 2 cents
Texatdurango
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Thanks for the explanation, I didn't kow there were different ways to set up your page(s), I don't think I ever got that involved to find out all the inner workings.
Someone mentioned that it's almost a necessity to have your business website linked to facebook, tweets, beeps, burps, likes. etc. I don't know about that because to those of us who don't use those things, having a page full of those little icons is just clutter. I visit sites to buy things not to find out if the seller had almonds or raisins in their breakfast cereal.
LeeR
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Now that's funny! I suppose you just lock yourself away in your shop? (That is what I try to do as aften as I can.)
I have WAY too many things on my bucket list -- woodworking, home remodeling and re-landscaping, travel, reading. I do email because I have to, plus I browse this forum periodically, but I have not seen the need to dive into Facebook -- yet. I do not sell my pens or other wood creations, whatever items I make that are not kept are given away as gifts. I believe if my wife ever decides to join, she can do the Facebooking for both of us. Heck, I do not even have a smart phone. :wink:
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sjhuse
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I like keeping up with friends on it, mostly use the chat part of it but can switch to skype if need. I used to play the games but they are too addicting - now I look for pen ideas and information on this site.
jimmyheikes
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I was a member of Facebook for a short time. My wife opened someone's page some time ago and was infected with a worm. So I spent precious lathe time fixing the computer. I will never go back. Several of my friends have had identity theft problems. I will never go back. Too many people think I'm interested in every daily move they make. TOO MUCH INFORMATION. I will never go back.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
Toni
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I like facebook, been re-united with some old friends which has been great since I was gone for 4 years in New Zealand. Plus I advertise my pens and get to talk to a few of you guys in chat. As a whole I like it.
76winger
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1. Is why I NEVER play games on FB.
This also the same reason not to open have the email that gets forwarded to the personal email account, too much chance of malware being attached.
2. Is why I NEVER share or say anything on FB that I wouldn't share in public anyway. Even less on FB as I don't populate home address, phone #s, etc.
3. Is easy to ignore by blocking all the game invites and clicking on 'home" and just scanning over the most recent entries, occasionally replying or liking something interesting, important or witty. But not spending any great amount of time at it. After all, there's IAP forum threads to be read, and pens to make! :biggrin:
76winger
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And I see a few nice new tubes from Toni, which is always worth looking though! :wink:
micah
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I sell a lot of pens thanks to facebook. My wife also uses it to network and do a lot of advertising for her shop.
I give facebook a lot of credit when it comes to the success of our business and my hobby. If you know how to work it, it can become a great tool. But you have to spend a little time there (but not as much as a lot of people do posting on forums...
I give facebook a lot of credit when it comes to the success of our business and my hobby. If you know how to work it, it can become a great tool. But you have to spend a little time there (but not as much as a lot of people do posting on forums...
sbell111
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I'm 99.273% certain that you cannot get a virus from merely looking at someone's facebook page. Clicking a link that has been placed on a page could get you into trouble just like clicking a random link placed on this forum could.
I'm not understanding how someone could steal your identity just from your being on facebook. Sure, anyone you 'friend' might have access to things like your name, hometown, and birthday, but that's not going to allow anyone to steal your identity. It's more likely that those friends fell victim to some sort of phishing scam and freely gave away sensitive information. People should know better.
I also hate it when people overshare. Generally, I just tweak the settings so that person's updates don't automatically land on my wall.
Scratch
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I've sold quite a few Pens and Bottle stoppers off Face Book. Unfortunately living in an apt. now my Turning is on hold.
bitshird
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I use it to keep in touch with my Son in Boston, heck I've even found a few people I haven't heard from in a long time !!
flippedcracker
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All of my business has come from facebook.
I can't stand it - too much info, too much demand for time...
I am in the younger generation, but I don't buy into all the new technology and 'time wasters'
I am in the younger generation, but I don't buy into all the new technology and 'time wasters'
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avbill
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at the close of the bell today Facebook was 9% DOWN. i hope you did not buy into the stock!