Clip art for decals and labels

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I think most clip art looks .. well .. kinda cartoonish. It has
it's place, but I don't think I'd use it on a serious project.
Unless I needed it specifically for a client, I wouldn't pay
for it. There's too much free clip art out there.
Now, logos are different.
 
I think most clip art looks .. well .. kinda cartoonish. It has
it's place, but I don't think I'd use it on a serious project.
Unless I needed it specifically for a client, I wouldn't pay
for it. There's too much free clip art out there.
Now, logos are different.

OK. What do you use as a source for logos.
 
If it's a logo, they'll probably have it for you to use. Or their advertising
dept. will have it. If you mean using it without permission, you probably
don't want to go there. Some companies are very aggressive about
protecting their marks and it can be a costly misstep
 
If it's a logo, they'll probably have it for you to use. Or their advertising
dept. will have it. If you mean using it without permission, you probably
don't want to go there. Some companies are very aggressive about
protecting their marks and it can be a costly misstep

I can understand producing a quantity of an item for sale with a logo on it without permission is a no-no, but if an alumni or member of an organization requests one, does the same problem arise?
 
My understanding of the law is that it does not matter who requested the use of the logo, the violation is in the commercial use and sale of the logo without permission. That said, I believe some organizations allow the use of their logo for members if it meets their guidelines. For example, I believe the knights of Columbus allows members to use their logo, so if a member wanted you to use the logo on a pen, I believe it would be within the law. I know we have had it put on polos with no issue from the company that did the work and they are a national retailer. However, most universities that I know of (and I teach at one) are very protective of their trademark, even with faculty. I could be wrong, but that is my $0.02.
 
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I can understand producing a quantity of an item for sale with a logo on it without permission is a no-no, but if an alumni or member of an organization requests one, does the same problem arise?

One or a million .. it's the same thing, except for the amount of damages
they can claim. (but damages are NOT limited to how much money you
made)
It becomes a question of weighing the risks and rewards. Will they find out
about the pen? Will they find out it was you?

It is the same problem, but it could be argued that it is a different degree.
Depends on the judge you get that day. Witness the people being sued
for millions for downloading music .. they never took in a penny, but are
still sued for large amounts.
The bottom line is that the logos are not ours, best to ask permission
or find something close that is in the public domain. (or create one)
Or hope nobody catches on.
 
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