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I know this has NOTHING to do with pen making or woodworking, but I always check with 'family' for answers first.

I need to ship a rifle (22 caliber) to my brother in Nebraska. Neither of us are firearms dealers. It was a Christmas gift years ago to me and my brother and due to other family 'events' I need to get the gun out of the house.
any ideas? Post office, UPS,? locate a gun dealer here?

thanks in advance.
 
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The last time I shipped a gun was about 10 years ago and it had to go to a gun dealer from a gun dealer by UPS next day air. The dealer will charge a small fee for the service $20 and the person receiving it will have to be able to own a firearm legally. Hopefully somebody who has done this recently will chime in.
 
The short answer is no. All the parcel post carriers (UPS, FedEx etc.) will refuse shipping to anyone unless they are a dealer or manufacture. Last I checked USPS will at the discretion of your local Postmaster ship to individuals within your State and sometime ago you could mail a rifle to yourself if you were hunting out of state but I believe this is no longer the case. You can for a fee ship to a local dealer and your brother upon filling out a NICS receive the firearm.(this is the only way for you to ship http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/922.html) Best way is road trip.

Disclaimer; laws have drastically change since I have done any of this and that was about 5 years ago and as a licensee I received much more than gave.
 
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I wonder if breaking it down into smaller parts in different boxes would work.

Where no one box would fire the rifle.
 
The last time I shipped one you could mail a long gun but not a hand gun I mailed it to a dealer/importer who then processed the paperwork and transfererd it to the final recipient. I mailed a shotgun from Florida to Washinton state. You can have a dealer do it for you as well. I have bought firearms from private sellers out of state and had to have them shipped to a dealer here. THen For a small fee he did the paperwork to transfer them to me. I had to do the forms and background check.


heres a link or two you can research on your own
http://www.cgwgun.com/shipping/usps.aspx
http://www.thegunzone.com/ship-guns.html
 
I tried to ship a pistol back to the manufacturer to have some work done on it. This was just last week. UPS would ship it but it had to go "overnight" shipping and would have cost me $72. I decided it wasn't that important. I don't think you can ship to an individual.
 
Mark I think your best bet is to call a local gun shop and tell them what you want to do. Be sure to let them know it is a rifle and not a hand gun as the laws differ. You might have your brother do the same thing in NE as gun laws vary greatly from state to state. You also might find the answer through www.gunbroker.com Pretty good site for those buying a gun via mail order, so they should have the info you need.
 
Read this page fully...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Support/SupportFAQView.aspx?faqid=1118

Basically, you can ship the firearm since it is a rifle and not a handgun, but since it is being shipped across state lines it MUST be sent to a current FFL (Federal Firearm License) holder. The FFL will then transfer (for a fee) the firearm to your brother. Since your brother will have to deal with the FFL, it's best to make sure whoever you ship it to is convenient for your brother.

Gunbroker also has a listing off FFL's by state which includes their physical address and usually what the transfer fee is although it's best to call and verify since alot of FFL's have upped their fees lately.

http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/DealerNetwork.aspx

Hope this helps.
 
Read this page fully...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Support/SupportFAQView.aspx?faqid=1118

Basically, you can ship the firearm since it is a rifle and not a handgun, but since it is being shipped across state lines it MUST be sent to a current FFL (Federal Firearm License) holder. The FFL will then transfer (for a fee) the firearm to your brother. Since your brother will have to deal with the FFL, it's best to make sure whoever you ship it to is convenient for your brother.

Gunbroker also has a listing off FFL's by state which includes their physical address and usually what the transfer fee is although it's best to call and verify since alot of FFL's have upped their fees lately.

http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/DealerNetwork.aspx

Hope this helps.
This is "spot on" for Nebraska as of last year(last time I did it). The fee from the FFL here was $40 at that time. Best I can do, gun laws change almost as fast as taxes go up. :eek:
 
Shipping a firearm

Mark,
Not sure if there is a larger dealer up in your area. There is one in Puyallup that I can check with tomorrow as to the details in our state. and will PM you the result.
Nick
 
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You as an individual can not ship across a state line - you must have a licensed dealer in your state ship to a licensed dealer in the state where your brother lives.
 
I shipped one usps about 2 years ago in the remington box. Insured no issues. Out of state no FFL involved! Check around for local restrictions most didnt at that time have any on long guns.
 
You will need to find someone with a FFL on both ends to be safe, although you can always do a little research and may potentially be able to remove the bolt and legally ship the barrled action minus bolt to him with no FFL needed. You will need to do the research though. Then next visit he can pick up the bolt and hand carry it back.
 
You as an individual can not ship across a state line - you must have a licensed dealer in your state ship to a licensed dealer in the state where your brother lives.

and

You will need to find someone with a FFL on both ends to be safe, although you can always do a little research and may potentially be able to remove the bolt and legally ship the barrled action minus bolt to him with no FFL needed. You will need to do the research though. Then next visit he can pick up the bolt and hand carry it back.

Not trying to argumentative, but this is incorrect. This is directly from the ATF:

(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.

Now he can certainly use an FFL on each end if he wants to avoid the hassle of shipping himself, but it will almost certainly cost him more money.

The absolute best thing to do is to call the FFL which will be receiving the firearm and have them instruct you on what to do.
 
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Notice I said to be safe, it is best to have an FFL on both ends, yes it adds expense although normally only 25-50 bucks. What I mean by researching is that the entire assembly is not considered by the BATF to be a weapon. For example the AR-15, I can order and have shipped via any carrier that I want every part of the AR minus the lower reciever and not have to worry about an FFL. the only part on the AR that it is required to be obtained or shipped to an FFL holder out of state is the lower. So he may be able to find a caveat that will allow him to ship minus the part that makes it go bang with out any FFL hassels or expense.

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You as an individual can not ship across a state line - you must have a licensed dealer in your state ship to a licensed dealer in the state where your brother lives.

and

You will need to find someone with a FFL on both ends to be safe, although you can always do a little research and may potentially be able to remove the bolt and legally ship the barrled action minus bolt to him with no FFL needed. You will need to do the research though. Then next visit he can pick up the bolt and hand carry it back.

Not trying to argumentative, but this is incorrect. This is directly from the ATF:

(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.

Now he can certainly use an FFL on each end if he wants to avoid the hassle of shipping himself, but it will almost certainly cost him more money.

The absolute best thing to do is to call the FFL which will be receiving the firearm and have them instruct you on what to do.
 
o.k. Here is what I found out. I spoke with a FFL dealer here in Washington. He said I could mail the rifle to myself c/o my brother. no paperwork no registration no extra fees, just set up an appointment with the post office to bring the rifle in with the packing material, seal it at the post office and off it goes.

this site provided me with the contacts I needed;
http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/DealerNetwork.aspx

thanks.
 
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