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I am starting this thread because of this thread. I made a comment in that thread that started a whole discussion of where BOW really comes from. This comment hijacked the original posters question. So, I have started this thread to continue the discussion:
WHERE DOES BOW COME FROM?
This is my original statement:
George (Robutacion) added some information here and here , here ,here and here about how most BOW is from Italy.
Now here are some more questions for us to ponder:
1. When I order my olivewood from Ebay, it comes to me in a box from either Bethlehem or Jerusalem. Since it is "FROM" there, does that make it BOW, or JOW?
2. See attached thumbnails. When my wood comes in these boxes it come with a bunch of "Authenticity Certificates." Picture 1. Does this make it authentic? It simply states the wood is "from Bethlehem, Jerusalem/The Holy Land." Being imported to Israel, unboxed, sent to Jerusalem, Bethlehem, etc., reboxed, and then shipped, does this not make it "FROM" these places? For instance, if I buy a gift at JC Penney's, give it to my wife, I say it is FROM me. But I didn't make it/grow it or do anything other than buy it. Can't the same reasoning apply to BOW/JOW?
3. In the same box I get stickers that say "MADE IN BETHLEHEM HOLY LAND OLIVE WOOD" Wow. Am I supposed to put these stickers on my pens even though they are MADE in Manchester, Connecticut? See Picture 2.
I guess is could be a matter of semantics (what does the word FROM really imply?).
It could be a matter of trust.
It could be much todo about nothing!!
WHERE DOES BOW COME FROM?
This is my original statement:
I have been to Israel 4 times now, hoping to go back again soon. Made friends with the Nissan brothers in Bethlehem. Efram and George are both good folks and they have quite the factory in their store basement. I used to get bulk wood from them, but they don't sell it anymore.
I have resorted to buying mine from Ebay, and it comes directly from Israel. However, another pen turner told me that some, if not most, of the time the wood comes from California, is shipped to Bethlehem and just re-posted in Bethlehem and shipped back. Sigh.
George (Robutacion) added some information here and here , here ,here and here about how most BOW is from Italy.
Now here are some more questions for us to ponder:
1. When I order my olivewood from Ebay, it comes to me in a box from either Bethlehem or Jerusalem. Since it is "FROM" there, does that make it BOW, or JOW?
2. See attached thumbnails. When my wood comes in these boxes it come with a bunch of "Authenticity Certificates." Picture 1. Does this make it authentic? It simply states the wood is "from Bethlehem, Jerusalem/The Holy Land." Being imported to Israel, unboxed, sent to Jerusalem, Bethlehem, etc., reboxed, and then shipped, does this not make it "FROM" these places? For instance, if I buy a gift at JC Penney's, give it to my wife, I say it is FROM me. But I didn't make it/grow it or do anything other than buy it. Can't the same reasoning apply to BOW/JOW?
3. In the same box I get stickers that say "MADE IN BETHLEHEM HOLY LAND OLIVE WOOD" Wow. Am I supposed to put these stickers on my pens even though they are MADE in Manchester, Connecticut? See Picture 2.
I guess is could be a matter of semantics (what does the word FROM really imply?).
It could be a matter of trust.
It could be much todo about nothing!!