Justin, don't give up on that look in Cream or White, as it is absolutely elegant. Maybe try it in Casein. Of course you could just send it to me and I'll file 13 it for you.
LOL!! Yeah ive got a few other ideas for the Ivory look:wink::biggrin:
I like it! It is very rich looking.
Thanks!!
Justin,
Your "worst" is better than my best. I can only hope to make pens as nice as this.
LOL!! Thanks Jason!! You will!!
I must admit I felt a small sense of satisfaction that it's not just me that has those issues. However, I LOVE this one. At first I thought it was made of that white corian I sent you. That really sucks that you went through that many blanks of Lucite! Not cheap stuff. If you ever figure out what's causing the pieces to not fit properly please let us know too. I'm happy to see that you stuck with it!:highfive:
LOL!! I almost used the corian, but i wanted it more real, with the striations. The corian was just to....White
I didnt go through a bunch of blanks luckily. I buy the Lucite in 18" rods, so it was just a whole bunch of 1 1/4" pieces that were wasted. But it was a least half of another pens worth of waste:frown:
Justin, for a mistake, it looks really nice, the shape and color work very well together, I hope you figure out the why and wherefore of the threading issue.
But I wouldn't feel to ashamed of carrying that "mistake".
It looks like it's been a dog eat dog day and you're the poor guy in Milk bone Underwear!!
LOL!! Thanks Ken!! Thats the worst kind of underwear
I like the pen. Looking at the title and then reading about the issues made me think of the price of real ivory. I was relieved that it was "only" lucite. That would have been a fortune otherwise.
Thanks!! I dont think i could have pulled this off with real Ivory
Justin, I think the pen looks fabulous. I hope that you can figure out what happened, because this one is a keeper.
Thanks!! Thats the problem, i dont want to keep it. I want it to got to someone who will use it and love it, but it wont make it there as is. I will try to work it out.
Wow! That pen is a keeper. Don't give up on it.
Thanks!! I never give up, just get discouraged sometimes:redface:
Well i wasnt going to show this, but since everyone has been attacking me today, i thought i better
This pen ended up being a total nightmare to make. I made the pen yesterday and spent several hours yesterday dealing with a logistical nightmare and destroying 4 front sections, so i threw in the towel and called it a night.:frown: I restarted this morning and went back to the drawing board, and it took me 4 more prototypes out of clear acrylic to get a working front section. So i made the front section and got everything finished and tried to screw the cap on and it starts to get tight about half way in. I ran the tap back through it and even ran the die back over the barrel threads, but nothing helps. I have had this problem before and im not sure what is causing it. Expansion of the material maybe? I dont know. So this one wont make it to anyones hands but mine. Really makes one mad when this happens
So anyway, this is an Empire in Cream (not ivory) Lucite with a #5 Bock feed and nib. Its a button filler and the cap is postable.
All Comments Welcome
Thanks For Looking
Justin
Ooh this sounds soooo familiar! :wink:
Have you looked at the diameter of the tenon you cut for the sac to glue onto? It almost sounds like the sac is rubbing the inside of the pen wall when you thread the section into the body causing some friction about mid way. Another possibility is that the sac itself is twisting around the pressure bar as you're threading the section in. Did you use plenty of talc?
I didn't realize how much the sac tries to twist around the bar until I made a clear prototype body then I SAW what my problem was. You DID make a clear prototype didn't you? :biggrin: If you did, another thing is to look at how the pressure bar touches the bottom of the body cavity. Is it scraping the body causing it to kink in one position or is it moving freely around the cavity when the section is screwed in?
Yeah its not the tenon. I thought the same thing,and checked it. And its not the section im having the issue with, its the cap to barrel connection, with the triple start threads. The barrel will screw into any of the other pens that i have just fine, but vise-versa with the cap wont work. It still starts to tighten up half way in.
I did make a clear prototype. Its what i model all of the subsequent pens after. Its something with the material shrinking where the threads are in the cap. Maybe because the material is so thin?
Sorry to here about all trouble. But still a very nice pen.
Thanks!!
Sublime! This would look killer in Alt Casein too. Do you have both the 12 and 14 mm tap sets for caps and barrels, and is this a 12mm, and the the #6 nibbed pens you've been posting recently the 14mm?
Dan
By the way, I once saw the following inscription scratched into a stall in the men's room of a University of Washington building, which I thought you would appreciate, given your sig: :biggrin:
"Engineering students credo: Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door."
I used this as a sig on some website for a while, can't remember which though.
Dan, i have both the 12 and 14mm triple start taps and dies. This is a 12mm, and most of the other pens i have posted lately, other than the Empire pens, have been with the 14mm. The 14mm will end up being my main size. That is until i get a metal lathe:biggrin:
Justin when you say you ran the die back over the threads again to chase them did you turn it around so the backside of the die cuts all the way to the shoulder? If you didn't the threads at the shoulder are not full depth causing the cap to bind before seating. It is the die equivalent of a bottoming tap.
The other option is to turn away the first couple threads in the cap or drill with a clearance drill before tapping to cause the same unthreaded area.
Did I get it? Did I? Did I? If I did, do I get a reward? :tongue: :biggrin:
By the way. To me pen says absolute purity. :wink:
Curly, i didnt turn the die around, but thats because i always chamfer the inside edge of my caps to get rid of this inevitible die problem:biggrin: and i think it looks sweet:wink: And thats not the problem, because the threads start tightening before i ever get close to the shoulder.
And i even did try to remove the first few threads just in case they were fouled and were messing everything up, but still no help.
So to answer your final question......NO......you didnt get it.......but thanks for trying:wink: You are still a winner:biggrin:
Justin, Some of the most ancient civilizations throughout history combined the beauty of the color of ivory..be it real ivory or stone, marble etc.. with the timeless and untarnished regal appearance of gold. Gorgeous pen Sensei!!! As always, I admire your tenacity and patience....:wink:.however I bet you used some words in the workshop your mom wouldn't approve of.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
. Regards, Doc
Thanks Doc!! There were a few choice words along the way:wink::biggrin:
So i made the front section and got everything finished and tried to screw the cap on and it starts to get tight about half way in. I ran the tap back through it and even ran the die back over the barrel threads, but nothing helps. I have had this problem before and im not sure what is causing it. Expansion of the material maybe?
Justin, did you put anything on the threads to try and make them screw together easier, maybe rub some wax on the threads. I've had to do that on a wooden box before when putting on the hinges. The heads on those tiny brass screws were actually breaking off, then someone suggested waxing them with bees wax.
I know, it doesn't answer the question of why it's happening, but might make it easier to get the section in next time.
Its not the section. Its the cap to barrel connection. The triple start threads. I just had trouble making the front section along the way. That problem has been resolved, but now a new one arose, after the pen was completed. Thanks for the help though:biggrin:
